General Chat

We all wonder if there is life after death and what will happen to us but I wonder where we were before conception.

Now then ..Let me try to remember :-S

Where did you come from, baby dear?
Out of the everywhere into the here.
Where did you get those eyes so blue?
Out of the sky as I came through.
What makes the light in them sparkle and spin?
Some of the starry spikes left in.
Where did you get that little tear?
I found it waiting when I got here.
What makes your forehead so smooth and high?
A soft hand stroked it as I went by.
What makes your cheek like a warm white rose?
I saw something better than any one knows.
Whence that three cornered smile of bliss?
Three angels gave me at once a kiss.
Where did you get this pearly ear?
God spoke, and it came out to hear.
Where did you get those arms and hands?
Love made itself into bonds and bands.
Feet, whence did you come, you darling things?
From the same box as the cherubs’ wings.
How did they all just come to be you?
God thought about me, and so I grew.
But how did you come to us, you dear?
God thought about you, and so I am here.

George MacDonald (1824–1905)

very profound indeed

Well many of us have accepted the old saying 'one out, one in' - especially where a death in a family has been followed by a birth within a twelve month or vica versa.

My daughter was born 6 months before my father aged 51 died.

My husband died six months after his grandchild was born and my grand mother died six months after my daughter was born. Grandma had been ill a while and told me that she wasn't going anywhere until she had seen my baby

I hope there is something after death, I've got unfinished plans to catch up on :-)

We accept that the physical bits, the wrapping, the body rots and goes back to it's basic constituents but it is the essence of the person that is supposed to go on somewhere.

Well, that essence must have come from somewhere musn't it?

Hence the saying,

"I was in Baghdad before you were in Dads Bag."


F.

Well, no, that is the making of the wrapper in Daddies wrapper.

What a lovely poem that is.

You cannot remember anything before birth because there was nothing before birth. Just as there is nothing after death. You are born, you live, you die. End of.

My hubbies grandad died on the overnight of a Sat/Sun ,our daughter was born on the Monday

Grandma woke to find him dead beside her.

The family were OH NO Shirley is in labour so we dont want to add to her worries but hubby came into see me on the Sunday and he was a bit quiet I took it he was worried about me and said I am OK dont worry He was I know but still wasnt opening up so I asked why. he didn't want to say but I had a flash of intuition and said is it grandad?? he then admitted it was.

Daughter was born the following day . I would have loved to have put his grt grandaughter in his arms.

In our daughters place two went to make way for her cos my maternal gran died too 3 weeks before she was born.

I used to sit with gran in the afternoon and we had tea and cakes and lots of chats . wish I could remember now some of the family chit chat she said .

The day of her funeral I was admitted to hospital with edema and signs of pre eclampsia. Still took another 15 days for daughter to arrive

Sharron, you'll get many different answers to your question, and they will come from those with faith and those with no faith. It's probably something you will have to delve into yourself to find what is right for you. :-)

Succinctly put Cynthia. We all believe what we believe.

Frederick...I've never heard that expression

Barney...ummm no, there's more to life and death than that. Maybe we don't understand everything as we never knew about space and thought the world was flat :-D. The soul goes on. I too have a few unanswered questions Sharron but I am sure that when you die that's not the end, the end of life yes but there is something more.

Everybodies understanding of everything will vary and on this subject probably more than most

It's a theory that we have had a previous physical existence, the 'soul' returns to 'heaven' and then is 'reborn' to continue its journey... 'past life memories' are not unknown, sometimes by very young children 'remembering'...whether you believe that or not, if it was the case it would be almost essential NOT to be able to remember

If you're a Dr Who fan think of when Donna took on the Dr''s memory....her brain was basically being overloaded, it's certainly as much as my brain can cope with dealing with THIS life, let alone what may have happened previously :-)

Oh come on Rose. You cannot argue theology with a TV Science Fiction Series.
That is going too far.

I don't believe in a 'soul' - what is it anyway? And if we have one, why doesn't every ant, fly, cat, horse, elephant and gorilla etc....We are all made of the same 'stuff' Just because the human brain has evolved to give us conscience, a greater range of emotions, self-awareness and more, doesn't mean that death bequeaths us anything other than a path to dust.

I'm not argueing theology Barney, I'm 'suggesting' that IF one had previous lives, it wouldn't be a good idea if you remembered them all whilst trying to live this one.

For example, if you found yourself constantly thinking 'Now what did I do when presented with this situation in my past life/lives, was that the right or wrong action to take?' it might lead to indecision at best lol.

I remember arguing about death last Autumn with a famous poster who cannot be named but whose name began with E.

I am a born again Christian. He had no faith and believed we became dust and eventually nothing was left of either our soul or body. We were both committed to our faith or lack of faith and got more than a little frustrated with each other at times. But always remained polite.

I myself believed in destruction of body and soul after death (is it called something like nihilism?) until my dad died 35 years ago. Life's experiences (and advancing age and inevitable death probably) make us all review our position and look into what will happen to us. I feel confident now I have all the answers, but would never dream of forcing them on others.