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Yes it's me again, having a blonde day. I have one ancestor I found that I am trying to build on. I've found him being born in Leyton, Essex that's through the 1891 census. When I look for him in births I cannot find him but find the same name but being born in West Ham. Can anyone please tell me if this district or whatever you call it is one in the same or is there somewhere in the future if I come across this type of thing again I can check on parishes, districts etc to see if they are one in the same.

Regards

Kathryn

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/west%20ham.html

Thank you Thelma, so I deduce from that list that Leyton and West Ham are one in the same or am I wrong? I will keep that list safe for any future reference.

Regards


Kathryn

You will find this sort of information on a census.
EG
1901 England Census Age: 3 Days
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Relation: Daughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Leyton, Essex, England

Civil parish: Leyton <<<<<<<
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Leyton <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<,,,,,
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Ham <<<<<<<
Sub-registration district: North Leyton

Hi again Thelma, that's a nuisance, just checked the particular record and it says where born Leyont but registration and sub registration district Fulham.

Regards

Kathryn

Leyton and West Ham. are two different places,


Fulham is nowhere near either of them..

Hi, this is the entry I'm talking about and the only birth I can find is in the third quarter of 1882 which says West Ham.

Walter E Day

Age:

8

Estimated Birth Year:

abt 1883


Relation:

Son


Father's Name:

Robert Day

Mother's name:

Ellen S Day


Gender:

Male

Where born:

Leyton, Essex, England

Civil parish:

Fulham

Ecclesiastical parish:

St Clement

County/Island:

London

Country:

England


Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image


Registration district:

Fulham


Sub-registration district:

Fulham


ED, institution, or vessel:

17


Kind regards


Kathryn

Kathryn I might be wrong (I often am) but I think that's say Walter was born Leyton and living in Fulham. x

I think - not sure! - that the registration district refers to the district where the census took place, That wouldn't necessarily be the same as the birthplace. Leyton isn't so very far from West Ham - certainly not in Essex - but the census taker could have got it wrong. What is the address for your 1891 census?

Hi Lesley you may well be right, although I have been researching for sometime there is a lot I still don't know. Anyhow I still can't find a birth for Walter. The only one I found was in the third quarter in 1882 and that gives West Ham.

Kind regards

Kathryn

You need to understand parish, registration district, county, on census's relate to where the person was on the date the census was taken, and not where that person was born,



Roy

They were living in Fulham on 1891 census,,,


West Ham was possibly the overall registration district Leyton was possibly one place they had lived when Walter was a baby and 8 years down the line with more children mistakes were made

although Leyton would have come under Hackney,,

Here is the birth for the census you posted

Births Dec 1882

Day Walter Edward W. Ham 4a 180

Roy

The age of Walter is as someone has transcribed it that they belive is right,,,,,,,,,!!

it could be--5/6/8.?

Whats his age on the next census 1901 and compare>

Hi again, thank you for that but call me thick then why does it say on the census he was born in Leyton? The birth Roy has given is the only one I found but was searching for a birth in Leyton. Must get to grips with this thing.

Kind regards



Kathryn

if its correct person his age in 1901 is **21** Walter E Day bn 1880 born in Leyton.....!!!

1901 Robert is still in Fulham with Ellen S Day hes retired,

Kathryn Leyton is only about 3 miles from West Ham so probably Walter was born Leyton and birth registered in West Ham. x

I was born & brought up in Fulham & like Kay says it is nowhere near to Leyton or West Ham

Hiya, I have a copy of his marriage cert. He married on 16 November 1901 in the registration district of Islington and his address is given as 44 Charteris Road which I believe is in North London as well and he has given his age as 20. Do you see where I was getting confused, not hard for me. In 1905 he has a daughter and he is at an address in Hendon but can find no sign of him with his wife Marie Adele Day nee Noel in the 1911 census. Not sure about him, he just seems to disappear. Perhaps I shouldn't be posting all this on this thread as it is supposed to be a general chat but somehow I've got carried away.

Kind regards

Kathryn

It probably says born Leyton because thats where he was born Leyton was in registration district w ham from 1837 until 1935

WEST HAM REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Registration County : Essex (1837–65), Greater London (1965–67).
Created : 1.7.1837.
Abolished : 1.1.1968 (incorporated into Newham registration district).
Sub-districts : Canning Town, Forest Gate, Leyton, North East Ham, North Leyton, Plaistow, Silvertown, South East Ham, South Leyton, Stratford, Walthamstow, Walthamstow East, Walthamstow West, Wanstead, West Ham, West Ham Central, West Ham North East, West Ham North West, West Ham South, Woodford.
GRO volumes : XII (1837–51), 4a (1852–1946)., 5A (1946–65), 5E (1965–67).
Registers now held by : Newham, Waltham Forest and Redbridge.

Have you found his parents in the 1881 to see if they lived in the west ham district then?

have you found his parents marriage?

Roy

also, did mum go to stay with family whilst giving birth?