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Hi, what I'll do next week is send off for the marriage cert of Marie and Charles and see what it gives Marie as being ie widowed or divorced but not sure if they put someone being divorced on a marriage cert especially in the 40's. Hopefully one of the people I have messaged might come up trumps. I do love a mystery but even more so if it is solved. Things like this bug me.

Thanks again for your help.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Kathryn,

Seems Walter Edward did a runner,,,,,,,,,,,but the single status maybe just a presumed one by who ever filled the form in?

:-D.

Thank you Roy, what I've done now is found quite a few trees on GR with a Walter Day given and I have contacted all the people with birth dates between 1880 and 1884, those that have their Walter listed as being born in London or just on the outskirts otherwise there were about 109 listed. I will keep all the information sent to me from you kind people just in case. Onwards and upwards.

Kind regards


Kathryn

For that year actual date of birth was not listed just the age so it only shows the approximate year, also ages on death certs can often be out because it all depends on the informants knowledge

here is the 1911 that Kay mentioned above

Name: Walter Edward Day
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Boarder
Birth Place: Leyton, Essex, England
Civil parish: Letchworth
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 136 Common View, Letchworth, Herts
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Electrician Wirer
Registration district: Hitchin
Registration District Number: 136
Sub-registration district: Baldock
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 107
Piece: 7575
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Henry Gentle 35
Bertha Gentle 38
Sydney Pasil Gentle 4
Walter Edward Day 27
Ernest Huffer 24

Roy

Hi Roy, yes I did but there were as you have found many. Without sending off for all of them it will be hard to tell not unless there's a site that shows the deaths with the birth dates?

Thanks for your continued help.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Have you thought of looking for a death for walter?

their are these possible deaths listed the 1944 enty may be interesting as you have his wife's possible remarraige in the following quarter?

Walter E Day abt 1881 Jan-Feb-Mar 1967 Bournemouth Dorset

Walter E T Day abt 1881 Jan-Feb-Mar 1956 Islington London

Walter E Day abt 1880 Oct-Nov-Dec 1957 Weston-super-Mare Somerset

Walter E Day abt 1879 Oct-Nov-Dec 1927 Scarborough Yorkshire North Riding

Walter E Day abt 1885 Jan-Feb-Mar 1944 Bridgwater Somerset

Walter E Day abt 1885 Oct-Nov-Dec 1949 Atherstone Warwickshire

Roy

Hi again, back from the Airport and have had some sleep. To follow on from my last message last evening, I have just found a marriage for Marie Isobella Adele Day to Charles Schofield in 1944. I suppose it would be a good idea to purchase this marriage cert to see if Marie is given as a widow? Not that I suppose it will help in finding Walter Edward Day. I was under the impression that Marie never married Charles Schofield. The mystery continues for now.

Kind regards

Kathryn

I hope not after everyone's hard work. It's funny you should say about an electrician as Walter on the birth cert of his daughter Marie Helen in 1906 gives him as an electrician. Am sure it's the right Walter, as I have the right parents etc and on his marriage cert if gives his father as being Robert Day and Robert's occupation as a pensioned police sergeant. I was told sometime ago that he disappeared and all was hush hush as his wife Marie Isabelle Adele Noel went off with an actor Charles Schofield but never married him. The plot thickens.

Once again, many thanks for everyone's input and help. So Kay are you saying there is another Walter Edward born 1883/4 as the only birth I found was in third quarter 1882?

I'll be at my computer until around 9.45pm as given before I have to be up very early but am excited at all this info.

Kind regards


Kathryn

I think you have been following the wrong Walter!! .........the Leyton 1883/4 born one, Walter Edward Day ,,,,,in 1911 is in Letchworh Hertfordshire listed as a single person and an electrician,,,,,

Thank you all for your help and the vast information. Still not sure what happened to Walter Edward though, he seems to have disappeared although I know he was around in 1905 well I think he was, he is obviously named on the birth certificate but as before he's not with Marie in the 1911 census and I can't find a death for him. Am going to bed soon as I have to be up at 4.30 to take a friend to the Airport so if anyone kindly leaves a message I will pick it up either before I go to bed or when I get back tomorrow morning. Once again, thank you to everyone for your help it is much appreciated.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Hi Katherine,

The 4 children in the 1891 Census were all born in different places, so they did move around.

1891 England Census
about Ellen S Day Name: Ellen S Day
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Roberr Day
Gender: Female
Where born: Watford, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 48
Folio: 31
Page Number: 57
Household Members: Name Age
Roberr Day 44
Ellen S Day 38
Eliza E Day 17 BORN in WATFORD
Robert P Day 15 BORN in PIMLICO
Walter E Day 8 BORN in LEYTON
Alice M Day 1 BORN In PLUMSTEAD


1901 England Census
about Ellen S Day Name: Ellen S Day
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert Day
Gender: Female
Where born: Watford, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: North West Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 77
Piece: 56
Folio: 111
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Day 52
Ellen S Day 48
Alice M Day 11
George W Day 5


1911 England Census
about Ellen Day Name: Ellen Day
Age in 1911: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Watford, Hertford, England
Civil parish: Fulham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 7 Aspenlea Road, Fulham, Hammersmith W
Marital Status: Widowed
Registration district: Fulham
Registration District Number: 3
Sub-registration district: North West Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Piece: 301
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Day 57
Alice Day 21
George Day 15

LA

Hi, this is his parents in the 1881 census, I think they married in Hickling but not 100% sure without looking it up.

Robert Day

Age:

33

Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1848

Relation:
Head

Spouse's Name:
Ellen Day

Gender:
Male

Where born:
Hicking, Norfolk, England

Civil parish:
St George

County/Island:
London

Country:
England

Street Address:
11 Skinner St

Condition as to marriage:
Married

Education:
Employment status:

View image

Occupation:
Detective Metn Police

Registration district:
St George Hanover Square

Sub-registration district:
Belgrave

ED, institution, or vessel:
18

Neighbors:
View others on page

Piece:
100

Folio:
101
Page Number:
36

Household Members:

Name
Age
Robert Day
33

Ellen Day
29

Eliza E. Day
7

Robert P. Day
5

Regards

Kathryn

It probably says born Leyton because thats where he was born Leyton was in registration district w ham from 1837 until 1935

WEST HAM REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Registration County : Essex (1837–65), Greater London (1965–67).
Created : 1.7.1837.
Abolished : 1.1.1968 (incorporated into Newham registration district).
Sub-districts : Canning Town, Forest Gate, Leyton, North East Ham, North Leyton, Plaistow, Silvertown, South East Ham, South Leyton, Stratford, Walthamstow, Walthamstow East, Walthamstow West, Wanstead, West Ham, West Ham Central, West Ham North East, West Ham North West, West Ham South, Woodford.
GRO volumes : XII (1837–51), 4a (1852–1946)., 5A (1946–65), 5E (1965–67).
Registers now held by : Newham, Waltham Forest and Redbridge.

Have you found his parents in the 1881 to see if they lived in the west ham district then?

have you found his parents marriage?

Roy

also, did mum go to stay with family whilst giving birth?

Hiya, I have a copy of his marriage cert. He married on 16 November 1901 in the registration district of Islington and his address is given as 44 Charteris Road which I believe is in North London as well and he has given his age as 20. Do you see where I was getting confused, not hard for me. In 1905 he has a daughter and he is at an address in Hendon but can find no sign of him with his wife Marie Adele Day nee Noel in the 1911 census. Not sure about him, he just seems to disappear. Perhaps I shouldn't be posting all this on this thread as it is supposed to be a general chat but somehow I've got carried away.

Kind regards

Kathryn

I was born & brought up in Fulham & like Kay says it is nowhere near to Leyton or West Ham

Kathryn Leyton is only about 3 miles from West Ham so probably Walter was born Leyton and birth registered in West Ham. x

if its correct person his age in 1901 is **21** Walter E Day bn 1880 born in Leyton.....!!!

1901 Robert is still in Fulham with Ellen S Day hes retired,

Hi again, thank you for that but call me thick then why does it say on the census he was born in Leyton? The birth Roy has given is the only one I found but was searching for a birth in Leyton. Must get to grips with this thing.

Kind regards



Kathryn

The age of Walter is as someone has transcribed it that they belive is right,,,,,,,,,!!

it could be--5/6/8.?

Whats his age on the next census 1901 and compare>

Here is the birth for the census you posted

Births Dec 1882

Day Walter Edward W. Ham 4a 180

Roy