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Oh Look I have posted twice!!!.Pooter is behaving a bit strange this morning.
Seems you are having problems too Frank.Are you being Mr Grumps this morning??? lol.
I really need my coffee now,before I attack the floors with the mop and bucket !

11.33

Is this Benjamin in 1891? under the name Willer
He is living next door to an Edward Powles ...... a fisherman !!!! maybe a brother to Robert Powles who's boat he was on .


Name: Benjamin C Willer
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's name: Robert Willer
Mother's name: Emily Willer
Gender: Male
Where born: Somerton, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Martham
Ecclesiastical parish: Martham
Town: Martham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Flegg
Sub-registration district: West Flegg
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
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Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Willer 57
Emily Willer 54
Benjamin C Willer 14
Ethel E Willer 11

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I have'nt gone yet car won't start. OH has it on charge!!

Mandy you clever girl once again. I could'nt find him on that census and thats why. Willer indeed!!!!!!!

I shall have to tell ancestry and get it changed. I did look for Hiller!!

12.30

I did find this

A younker on board ship. In Smith’s Sea Grammar we are told that “younkers are the young men whose duty it is to take in the topsails, or top the yard for furling the sails or slinging the yards… .

Hi I'm back
Had a lovely baked potato for lunch follwed by a strawberry yougart a normal one I might add. I have given up my weight watches yogs for the time being and enjoying real food,

Mel I have lost my little hearts on here the ones I use when wishing people happy birthday they just come up as question marks now boo hoo, wonder why they have changed.

1.40pm

Will try again, did you see my posting at. 1120am shows up before a lot of others.that were earlier than mine.

Ros had a good night,the nurse came before she was up. the wound looks very angry. She has upped her anti-biotics. there will be a different nurse over the weekend. as not so many on.

I was saying about shoes this morning. During the war when evacuated I wore clogs, Horrible things, had to screw your toes up to keep them on. Then when we came home it was hand me downs, and home repairs. Shoes lasted for ever. With all the blakies and studs, they never wore out. I had terrible corns in my early days. It was when I came to Northampton, and could afford factory seconds of the best makes, that my feet inproved.
No more corns, and now I tend to wear BARKE#S shoes from Earls Barton. Both Ros's parents worked there, for many years. 2nds still cost a lot of money but all leather and my sort of style. No more corns.

My Dad had a sail makers palm. A leather band that went round your hand with a metal piece in the palm with dimples like a thimble. It was used for pushing the needle through the canvas for stitching sails and canvas bags. It was around the house up till I left in 1958. Don't know who had it, also my VE mug. with the union jack on one side and my name on the other. Every child in the country had one.

Ros and I use to buy Lewis's shoes, always went to Clarkes had had his feet measured. I've still got his first pair of football boots in a bag in the garage. I will give them to him when he;s a bit older.

Hope everyone one is on top of the world. We are speaking again but not real conversations. I feel Piss#d off at the moment and got the shakes, and my leg keeps twitching.

Have got dinner ready for tonight.
Roast Leg of Lamb (HALF) Roast pots, parsnips, cauli, brussels carrots, with a Rhubarb and Apple crumble and custard for sweet.

BBL

Hi Everyone

Gosh you have all been busy since yesterday.
*Mel* I do not mind you sharing details with the others and am thrilled that mandy has found BC's family in the census.Thanks a million.BC was a very interesting man and he became skipper of a fishing boat and travelled mainly in and around the british isles. We have a photograph of him and his crew on our staircase.I was aware of the term yonker but now I know what it means.
BC was also involved in an incident when a fellow sailor was drowned after falling overboard but he was cleared of any wrongdoing.We have spent the morning with mother in law who has been wracking her brains for more information, and letting us view some old documents. I love this part of research as you never know what you will find.

The weather here is bright but cold and my headcold is slightly better in that my nose is now running and my head clearer.
Things often disappear(?) in this house never to be seen again or are found in stupid places.
Cheer up Frank I expect your feeling the shakes and trembles is just reaction to everything that has happened to you over the last few days.
Sorry to hear that Ros' wound is infected, its bound to make her irritable too
14.54

I have just checked the 1891 Census here on Genes and the family are recorded as Miller living on the Green in Martham.
I have no idea what to have for tea so had better raid the freezer as we need to be out by 6pm.
Two more performances tomorrow and then life can settle down again. I sold almost £200 worth of ices last night. Hope its the same tonight.

15.37

3.22pm

Just looked in to see who's around, and put the page 402 up. and it showed pages going back to JUNE 2010.Took me ages to get upto date. The pages have been jumping around this morning. bit better now !!!!

My dad joined the navy in 1901. During the 1st war he was a gunner with massive guns and shells. when he was dying. He was shouting out commands to the men. as he did during the war. The patients in the ward wondered where they were, as did I. !!!. I was only thinking of him again this afternoon.One strong memory is, when I came home from work one evening. He called me into the bathroom, It was the first time I had seen my father naked. His leg had blown up to about three times its usual size, that was the beginning of a two year fight with Cancer. At that time I noticed he had an eagle with full wingspan across his chest, the legs and talons down to his waist, the talons held a serpent that was entwined round his waist. The colours in that tattoo was something I had never seen before or since. He had it done in China, on many trips to that country. Going back to the same tattooist. His arms and leg also tattooed He was only known as "SAILOR BILL" to many of the children around our way. He never seemed to walk straight. always rolled in his stride. If you know what I mean. The stories I could tell about that man, would fill a book.

3.22pm

Just looked in to see who's around, and put the page 402 up. and it showed pages going back to JUNE 2010.Took me ages to get upto date. The pages have been jumping around this morning. bit better now !!!!

My dad joined the navy in 1901. During the 1st war he was a gunner with massive guns and shells. when he was dying. He was shouting out commands to the men. as he did during the war. The patients in the ward wondered where they were, as did I. !!!. I was only thinking of him again this afternoon.One strong memory is, when I came home from work one evening. He called me into the bathroom, It was the first time I had seen my father naked. His leg had blown up to about three times its usual size, that was the beginning of a two year fight with Cancer. At that time I noticed he had an eagle with full wingspan across his chest, the legs and talons down to his waist, the talons held a serpent that was entwined round his waist. The colours in that tattoo was something I had never seen before or since. He had it done in China, on many trips to that country. Going back to the same tattooist. His arms and leg also tattooed He was only known as "SAILOR BILL" to many of the children around our way. He never seemed to walk straight. always rolled in his stride. If you know what I mean. The stories I could tell about that man, would fill a book.

Anne,

The address in the 1891 census is Damgate Road .

Here's the family in 1881 ....address is The Street
Name: Robert Miller
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emily Miller
Gender: Male
Where born: Winterton, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Somerton
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address: The Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Ag Lab

Registration district: Flegg
Sub-registration district: West Flegg
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
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Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Miller 47
Emily Miller 44
John Miller 22
James Miller 21
Sarah Miller 11
Robert Miller 8
Fredrick Miller 6
Benjamin Miller 4
Ethel Miller 1

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1871...Address 2,Back Path,and Robert is down as a Fisherman.

Name: Robert Miller
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emily Miller
Gender: Male
Where born: Winterton, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Winterton
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
Town: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Flegg
Sub-registration district: West Flegg
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 154
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Miller 36
Emily Miller 34
John W Miller 12
James R Miller 11
Mary E Miller 9
Alice S Miller 4
Sarah M Miller 1

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1861...Address Staithe Road

Name: Robert Miller
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emly Miller
Gender: Male
Where born: Winterton, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Somerton
Town: West Somerton
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Flegg
Sub-registration district: West Flegg
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Miller 27
Emly Miller 24
John William Miller 2
James Robert Miller 1
Charles Barnard 27

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1851...Address ...Street.
Robert is a servant for Stephen Leach ,a Farmer.

Name: Robert Miller
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Servant
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Winterton, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Somerton
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Flegg
Sub-registration district: East Flegg
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Leach 70
Rebecca Leach 65
Eliza George 18
Robert Miller 17

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1841...with Father John,down as Ag Lab and beside it is written Shepard .


Name: Robert Miller
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Where born: Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Winterton
Hundred: West Flegg
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: East and West Flegg
Sub-registration district: West Flegg
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Miller 30
Sarah Miller 30
Robert Miller 7
John Miller 2
James Miller 3 Weeks

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Frank ,more stories about your Dad would be interesting to hear.That sounded quite a Tattoo he had.My Dad didn't have any tattoos.He was a diver in the Marines,and wore one of those 'Goldfish Bowl ' helmets and lead boots.He never talked about the war at all.The only thing I remember him saying was when he was diving down to a sunken ship in the Suez Canal and seeing the body of a Nurse hanging out of a porthole.I would loved to have heard some of the things he did and saw in the war,but it was just never spoken about.It used to upset him terribly.

I don't know where today has gone again.I nipped out to get a couple of small pressies for Chris's birthday tomorrow,and then to Tes** .Then Fitz popped in with a card........and I STILL haven't washed the floors !!!!
Oh well there is always tomorrow when Chris is out with Chester.

We haven't heard from Liz today.I hope everything is alright with Ian.

16.10

Mandy Thanks for everything. I am still unsure of the 1891 Census as Dora lived on the green in Martham in her fathers house until her death in 1991 and we visited her many times when I was first married.
I do find some of this census info confusing. Maybe its all down to the enumerator.
The cottage was sold by hubby's parents after her death and we were just saying this morning that we wish we could have bought it but at that time we just did not have the spare cash and my father in law was very ill and just wanted it off his shoulders.
It was a lovely cottage with a kitchen and sitting room downstairs and two small bedrooms up. The bathroom was built later as an extention and there was a wonderful outhouse witrh a huge oven at the end of the garden.
Must go now but thanks everyone for all your help. My next challenge are the Kelly family, should be fun as there are millions of them

Anne ,what a pity you couldn't get the cottage.I bet it would have been lovely to have kept it in the family.Sadly this must happen all the time.At least you have the memories of it.
I hope you sell 'tons' of ice cream again and that the last performances of the Panto go well.You must live in a fairly big town to get large numbers of bottoms on seats each night.I think you will both be due a good rest when it is all over.
My Mum belonged to WI for years ,and they had the 'Drama Group'.Each year they put on a show in the village hall ,and they didn't half put some good plays
I have an Album of photos of all the performances that Mum was in.I think they won an award one year for the South West.The one thing Mum couldn't do, was sing.She always had to mime as she could never hold a note lol I have several newspaper cuttings of their 'doe's'
17.38

Hi happy belated Birthday to Anne.
I do hope you will feel better soon Frank what operation did Ros have I have missed so much. Your stories Frank on the navy and your dad are really interesting I have just read them all . I am trying to get over the past now and return to normal. But still hurt inside but I am telling myself most of you haved suffered and that is helping.

I do hope Liz Ian recovers my brother did and now is going around playing table tennis He felt very sick for months after his treatments for his cancer
of the prostrate. Poor Merlin being so scared .

Aprils horse is gone now to a lady with two children I am sure it will be happy. Rashers went to a farm close by and the people there did not like the name Rashers so have called him Porker poor pig could they not have called him something that did not remind him he may end on a table for lunch one day. I said to April will he come when called that name and she said no I dread seing him he may kick my bum I laughed to myself

Well the panto was ok not too impressed with Nigel and Joan they acted like they were just in it never looked once at the audience. I met her and Julian Clary and the lovely Orville.I was in the dining room with April and Michelle and they bought us some Asti because we did not want anything else and then later a man came and said come with us we did not know where we were going and were shown into a room there stood Joan Nigel and Julian signing autographs.Julian wafted up to us in a silver suit in full make up and said Hi I am Julian Fairy of the Bells little April spied his huge blue glittering ring on his finger and said like your ring
.He said Oh do you it is only paste of course and so April said well can I have it then .Three of us went April and Julian said well I need this for the panto but can give you something Ill just nip to my fairy grotto. Aprils comment. Well do not be too long I need a wee. Julian looked somewhat shocked and said Oh no I will be back in a jiff.

Meanwhile a very dirty faced scruffy King Rat Nigel Havers asked before I go do anymore people want my autograph .I said yes please and he said Joanie come over here please. Joan Collins dressed in a short purple glittery dress supporting a long tail came up looking rather plumpish but nice legs. Joan came up and said hello I am Joan Collins shook our hand and chugged April under the chin she said what a delightful young lady and our April had to let us down again she said who are you. and she said Queen Rat I said Miss Collins is a famous film star and actress
and she said Joan yes well and now I have ended up in panto dear in Birmingham .I do hope you enjoy the show it ends on Sunday so do tell your friends to come . Julian returned and said here you are little girl and gave her a bright orange ring bigger than the one he wore .April was over the moon .I cracked up when I said give Julian a kiss for that April and he said No I do not kiss ladies ha ha no only joking and kissed Aprils hand.
I could not believe I was looking at them all for so long . Julian Clary and Orville stole the show and the Monkey was so funny. Julians costumes were fantastic. The show was a bit smuttie I thought for children and it did not go down too well when Nigel Havers said I am a common rat but you in Birmingham should be happy. He got more than hisses for a few minutes. Joan did not walk around she was supported the whole time by about seven coloured dancers who said my daughter all looked like Mohsen. They sailed a boat to Morocco had it been Tunis I think she would have got up and gone. The show ended rather suddenly and did not receive a very big eclaim at the end not like last years during one curtain call Joan was chatting to Nigel and did not even look.I think she had enough .The lunch was lovely and we did get a very good seat for the show in the third row of the stalls.Funny signing stuff before the show I thought. No photoes were allowed I did not care the costumes of rats were a bit offish. The kids in the panto were hopeless they missed several
ques and one fat little girl was shoving several to move. However I was glad to get out anf forget my problems.

Anne thank you for your info you posted best wishes to everyone.

Hi Everyone, Just a quick update. Ian sounds much better this evening and he had had a small supper, and cerainly sounds chirpier. He should, with a bit of luck be out tomorrow or Sunday!! Had the Garage on the phone and the news with the car isn't good!! they can't find anything wrong with it, BUT clearly something is!! anyhow, I'm to ring again on Monday. If they still can't fix the problem it looks as if I will have to change the car, as I can't drive mine in case it happen's again. I don't want to as I don't want to have to spend the money, BUT I can't risk breaking down! Oh dear, one thing after another!! We shall see!! Must go and feed Millie! B.F.N!