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Hi there, I am trying to find a Killeen Family or descendants of a Killen Family who lived in SandyMount in Dublin. - 4 St Clares Park
There are a few discrepancies but this may be the family on the 1911 census.
Looking at the 1911 Census of Ireland I found the following:

Residents of house number 16 in Hope St. (Pembroke West, Dublin)
Surname Forename Age Sex
Killeen Daniel 36 Male
Killeen Elizabeth 46 Female
Killeen May 17 Female
Killeen John 16 Male
Killeen Lily 14 Female
Killeen William 12 Male
Killeen Francis 10 Male
Killeen Garrett 6 Male
Killeen Benjamin 4 Male
Wilson George 21 Male (lodger)

We have a photo of a Gary and of a Bernard brothers to two Irish Catholic Killeen Sisters May Violet & Lily who married two English Clark Brothers - James Henry Clark born 1899 and William Thomas Clark born 1899 ( Both soldiers deployed during the troubles in Ireland and they then moved to England between 1924 and 1926 - London area we think.

The name Lizzie (Elizabeth?) also appears

A May Killeen is listed on this Census record too and her age is only one year out in relation to our own May (Mary) Killeen born 9th March1892 (the 1911 census was taken on Sunday 2 April 1911).

A Lily (or Lillian?) Killeen is listed but this would make her birth around 1897 and not 1903 as I think you mentioned in your email. Can you be certain of this birth year for Lily?

I did read that ages of individuals on the 1911 Census can’t always be trusted and are often estimated.

Could Garrett be our Garry Killeen?
You’ll notice that no Bernard Killeen appears unless he was born after 2 April 1911?

There’s an interesting note on the Census to say that Elizabeth Killeen had 8 children and 7 had survived.

The location of Hope Street is quite close to the area of Sandymount.

Any information on the Killeen brothers would be very much appreciated.

Start by looking in ‘search all member trees’ if you want to find living connections

Transcribed census birth years are calculated from the info about ages recorded by the person filling in the form

If some of them moved to England, they should be on the 1939 register with exact DoB’s, which you will have to hope are accurate

What do you know without any doubt about ANY of the KIlleens in your heritage?

For a start…WHEN were they at the address you give? And who exactly were ‘they’?

Have you thought of getting copy marriage certs to verify father’s name?

Whose e-mail? (Mentioned in your post, part of which - at least - appears to have been copied)

Is this your family? Or someone else’s? Makes a difference regarding direct knowledge ;-) ;-)

Were the Clark males twins?

1911 and 1901 census in full in case any information helps further

Census Years1911

DublinPembroke WestHope StreetResidents of a house
Residents of a house 16 in Hope Street (Pembroke West, Dublin)

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Killeen Daniel 36 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Kinnegad, Co Westmeath Motorman Tramway Read and write - Married - 20 - -
Killeen Elizabeth 46 Female Wife Protestant Irish Church Kildas In, Co Wexford - Read and write - Married - 20 8 7
Killeen May 17 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Dublin Servant Read and write - Single - - - -
Killeen John 16 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Dublin - Read and write - Single - - - -
Killeen Lily 14 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Dublin Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Killeen William 12 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Dublin Scholar Cannot read - Single - - - -
Killeen Francis 10 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Dublin Scholar Cannot read - Single - - - -
Killeen Garrett 6 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Dublin Scholar Cannot read - Single - - - -
Killeen Benjamin 4 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Dublin Scholar Cannot read - Single - - - -
Wilson George 21 Male Lodger Protestant Irish Church Co Dublin Clerk Read and write - Single - - - -

and 1901
Residents of a house 1 in Potts Lane (Blackrock, Dublin)

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
Killeen Daniel 27 Male Head of Family R C Co Westmeath Tram Motorman Read and write
Killeen Lizzie 28 Female Wife R C Co Wexford - Read and write - Married -
Killeen Mary 7 Female Daughter R C Co Dublin Scholar Read only - Not Married -
Killeen John 5 Male Son R C Co Dublin - Cannot read - Not Married -
Killeen Lizzie 3 Female Daughter R C Co Dublin - Cannot read - Not Married -
- Married -
Killeen William 1 Male Son R C Co Dublin - Cannot read - Not Married -

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ - free to use site

Name MARY KILLEEN
Date of Birth 1893
Group Registration ID 9014172
SR District/Reg Area Rathdown
Sex see register entry
Mother's Birth Surname see register entry
Image

Original - 9.3.1893 at 47 Williamstown d/o Daniel a Labourer and Lillie formerly Plunkett

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Name JOHN KILLEEN
Date of Birth 1894
Group Registration ID 11474608
SR District/Reg Area Dublin South
Sex see register entry
Mother's Birth Surname see register entry
Image

From original 22 Oct 1894 at 7 Beatty's aVe. Father Daniel a Stable man. Mother Elizabeth formerly Plunkett

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??ELizabeth's former surname different to other registrations but Daniel's occupation fits as does the address

Name ELIZABETH KILLEEN
Date of Birth 1896
Group Registration ID 10073129
SR District/Reg Area Dublin South
Sex see register entry
Mother's Birth Surname see register entry

From original -

b 15 August 1896 @ 11 Turners Cottages, Ball's Bridge
Father Daniel a Tram Driver. Mother Elizabeth formerly Fox

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Name WILLIAM KILLEEN
Date of Birth 28 January 1899 <<<<<<<<<< see below, actually 28.12.1898
Group Registration ID 9768297
SR District/Reg Area Dublin South
Sex Male
Mother's Birth Surname PLUNKETT

From original - 28.12.1898 at 12 Turners Cottages, s/o Daniel a Tram Car driver and Lizzie formerly Plunkett

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Name FRANCIS KILLEEN
Date of Birth 31 May 1901
Group Registration ID 210715
SR District/Reg Area Rathdown
Sex Male
Mother's Birth Surname PLUNKETT

from original born at 1 Williams .....? Town.
Father a Motorman

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??
Marriage of DANIEL KILLEEN and ELIZABETH PLUNKETT
on 10 July 1892

Party 1 Name DANIEL KILLEEN
Party 2 Name ELIZABETH PLUNKETT
Date of Event 10 July 1892
Group Registration ID 2179813
SR District/Reg Area Rathdown
Image

From original -
At the RC chapel of Booterstown, Blackrock, Rathdown, Co Dublin
Daniel a Minor, Elizabeth of full age
Daniel a Bachelor and a Coachman, residing at Lisa Lea, Blackrock, s/o John Killeen, deceased
Elizabeth a spinster a Servant of ?William Terrace, Blackrock , d/o Edward Plunlkett a Policeman.
Witnesses - Myles Kennedy and Annie Mooney

Rathdown borders South Dublin

Party 1 Name JAMES CLARK
Party 2 Name MARY KILLEEN
Date of Event 25 November 1914
Group Registration ID 1726587
SR District/Reg Area Dublin South
Image

From original -
Married at St Stephens Church, City of Dublin
James of full age, a Private in the 5th Lancers of Marlborough Barrcks, s/o James Henry Clarke a Carter
Mary a Minor, of 3 O'Brians Cottages, Haddington Road, d/o Daniel Killeen a Motor man
Witnesses - Thomas Murray and Lillie Killeen

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)
Clark William T Killeen W. Ham 4a 848
KILLEEN Lilian Clark W. Ham 4a 848

FMP playing up at the moment, can't check 1921 census or 1939 register

Don't know which child belongs to which couple for sure -

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Sep 1922 (>99%)
Clark Eileen A E Killeen W.Ham 4a 625
Births Jun 1925 (>99%)
Clark John D Killeen West Ham 4a 571
Births Dec 1930 (>99%)
Clark Sheila M Killeen Richmond S. 2a 886
Births Sep 1931 (>99%)
Clark Mary Killeen Billericay 4a 1090

Someone named Nick Clark posted on Rootschat in 2010, looking for the location of St Clare's Park, because he had a scan of a postcard addressed to Bernard Killeen at 4 St Clare's Park.

No date for the postcard.

Also, Nick Clark's father 's birth cert mentions St Clare's Park (he doesn't say the date).
Nick's paternal grandmother's maiden name was Killeen.
His paternal grandfather was James H Clark.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=421259.27

He thought that St Clare's Park might only have been called that briefly, and changed to Seafort/Seaforth Gardens.
In 1938 Electoral Roll, a Daniel Killeen was at 4 Seaforth Gardens, in the Sandymount area.


The marriage posted by Greyghost at 23:28 will probably be Nick's grandparents' marriage.

ANNIE CLARK
Date of Birth 18 May 1915
Group Registration ID 1430186
SR District/Reg Area Dublin
Sex Female
Mother's Birth Surname KILLEEN

At 3 O'Briens Place
Annie Elizabeth vVolet
Father James Henry of Marlborough Barracks a Private 5th Lancers
Mother Mary formerly Killeen

Google has a new housing development at St Clare's Park, St Clare's, Harold's Cross, Dublin

At 23:00 Greyghost posted a marriage between Daniel Killeen and Elizabeth Plunkett in 1892.

Birth of their son Bernard at 8 Thomas Street:

SR District/Reg Area - Dublin
Birth of BERNARD KILLEEN on 20 September 1905
Name BERNARD KILLEEN
Date of Birth 20 September 1905
Group Registration ID 494376
SR District/Reg Area Dublin
Sex Male
Mother's Birth Surname PLUNKETT


But he's not with the family on the 1911 Census already posted.

Could Garrett on the census be Bernard ??
Or perhaps Benjamin is Bernard ??

I don't see the birth of either Garrett or Benjamin Killeen.

Bernard Killeen, of 4 Hill Street, a solder, father Daniel (motorman), married Esther Conway in 1944.

SR District/Reg Area - Dublin
Marriage of Bernard KILLEEN and Esther CONWAY
on 10 August 1944
Party 1 Name Bernard KILLEEN
Party 2 Name Esther CONWAY
Date of Event 10 August 1944
Group Registration ID 1032826
SR District/Reg Area Dublin

Party 1 Name JOHN FORTUNE
Party 2 Name ELIZABETH KILLEEN
Date of Event 15 August 1917
Group Registration ID 1770851
SR District/Reg Area Dublin South

John joseph Fortune full age a confectioner of 55 Marlboro Street, s/o John a Labourer
Elizabeth Killleen a Minor of Brooklawn ?......... d/o Daniel a Tram driver

James Clark who married Mary Killeen was in the 5th Lancers.

??
James H Clark
in the UK, British Army World War I Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
Name James H Clark
Military Date 1914-1920
Military Place England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, United Kingdom
Regiment or Corps 5th Lancers (Royal Irish)
Regimental Number L/4941



May Violet and James Henry in 1939:

May V Clark
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name May V Clark
Gender Female
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 26 Mar 1893
Residence Date 1939
Address 289 London Road
Residence Place Southend-On-Sea, Essex, England
Occupation Unpaid Domestic Worker
Line Number 14
Schedule Number 256
Sub Schedule Number 2
Enumeration District Dahc
Borough Southend-On-Sea
Registration district 195=3/E.d No 57 8??
Inferred Spouse
James H Clark
Inferred Children
Wm Y Clark
John Ed Clark
Household Members (Name) Gender
James H Clark Male - 29 Sept 1891
May V Clark Female
Wm Y Clark Male - 4 Aug. 1924 [Wm T Clark ]
John Ed Clark Male - 29 April 1928
This record is officially closed.
Annie Female
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.



John Edward Clark
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name John Edward Clark
Birth Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Birth Date 1928
Birth Place Dublin North, Ireland
Birth Registration Date Sep 1928
Birth Registration Place Ireland
Mother Killeen
Volume 2
Page 268
FHL Film Number 101230


William Thomas Clarke
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name William Thomas Clarke
Birth Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Birth Date 1924
Birth Place Dublin South, Ireland
Birth Registration Date Sep 1924
Birth Registration Place Ireland
Volume 2
Page 421
FHL Film Number 101229

The West Ham births on freebmd are almost certainly the products of a 1919 marriage in the same district

EDITED 12.05PM

Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)
Clark William T Killeen W. Ham 4a 848
KILLEEN Lilian Clark W. Ham 4a 848

James Henry , and brother William Thomas, in 1911:

James Henry Clark
in the 1911 England Census
Name James Henry Clark
Age in 1911 17
Estimated Birth Year abt 1894
Relation to Head Son
Gender Male
Birth Place Bethnal Green, London, England
Civil parish Low Leyton
County/Island Essex
Country England
Street Address No 27 Trinity Street, Leytonstone
Marital Status Single
Registration District Number 188
Sub-registration district South Leyton
ED, institution, or vessel 08
Piece 9613
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
James Henry Clark 40 Head - CARTER [ Married 21 years ]
Annie Clark 41 Wife
James Henry Clark 17 Son - Vanguard for British Eastern Rail
Martha Clark 15 Daughter - Domestic servant
Lidia Clark 13 Daughter
William Clark 11 Son
Lavinia Clark 9 Daughter
John Clark 7 Son
Maud Clark 4 Daughter
Ivy Violet Clark 3 Daughter [ Image just says Ivy - no middle name ]
Matilda Clark 1 Daughter


William Thomas Clark
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1923
Name William Thomas Clark
Gender Male
Record Type Baptism
Baptism Date 30 Apr 1899 [Born 9/4/99 ]
Baptism Place St James the Great, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets, England
Father James Henry Clark
Mother Annie Clark
Register Type Parish Register


Parents' marriage;

Marriages Sep 1890 (>99%)
Clark James Henry Bethnal Green 1c 309
Howe Annie Bethnal Green 1c 309


CLARK, MATILDA mmn HOW
GRO Reference: 1909 S Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 335

CLARK, IVY VICTORIA mmn HOW
GRO Reference: 1907 D Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 338

CLARK, MAUD LILIAN mmn HOW
GRO Reference: 1906 M Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 355

CLARK, JOHN EDWARD mmn HOW
GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 345

CLARK, LAVINIA mmn HOW
GRO Reference: 1901 S Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 370

CLARK, WILLIAM THOMAS mmn HOW
GRO Reference: 1899 J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 146

CLARK, LYDIA MAY mmn HOW
GRO Reference: 1897 S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 177

CLARK, MARTHA mmn HOW
GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 200

CLARK, JAMES HENRY mmn HOW
GRO Reference: 1892 D Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 191

Another later daughter:

CLARK, EDITH FLORENCE mmn HOW
GRO Reference: 1911 S Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 629