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Alfred Ford 1884-1918

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Janette

Janette Report 20 Mar 2011 14:10

Alice Turton born 1889 Rawmarsh Rotherham South Yorkshire.she was married to Alfred Ford,he was born South Yorkshire 1884 and died in 1918.i looked on the commonwealth war site and there is an Alfred Ford who was a gunner number 200759 Royal Field Artillery,it says the son of Alfred and Amy,i dont have his parents,can this be my Alfred Ford? please help thanks Janette

Andrew

Andrew Report 20 Mar 2011 14:35

This appears to be the only Alfred Ford that has correct parents. Date of birth suggests his not yours

1901 England Census
about Alfred Ford Name: Alfred Ford
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Alfred Ford
Mother's Name: Amy Ford
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Attercliffe Cum Darnall
Ecclesiastical parish: Attercliffe Christchurch
Town: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: Attercliffe
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Ford 39
Amy Ford 39
Percy Ford 14
Ethel Ford 9
Alfred Ford 7
Mary Ford 4
Thomas Wm Ford 1


Andy

Janette

Janette Report 20 Mar 2011 14:41

thankyou Andrew for your help.

Catherine

Catherine Report 20 Mar 2011 15:36

Janette,
Where exactly was Alfred born?

I've had a look for a marriage for Alfred Ford and Alice Turton, but can't see anything. When were they married?

If you buy their marriage cert. then this should give you Alfred's father's name and occupation, which will help find him in the census records. It will also give you the address he was living at, at the time of the marriage and witnesses names who may be siblings.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Mar 2011 15:55

But Catherine, how can Janette buy the marriage certificate when we can't find any record of it?

Janette

Janette Report 20 Mar 2011 16:24

Hi all i know is he was born Rawmarsh Rotherham or Sheffield thanks

Catherine

Catherine Report 20 Mar 2011 16:31

Janette,
You say that he married Alice but you haven't answered my question. To find a possible marriage we need at least a date.
Do you know if they had any children and if yes, what were their names and when and where were they born?
This info may help find that marriage!

Catherine

Catherine Report 20 Mar 2011 16:39

There's this one but he was killed in 1917?

Name: Alfred Ford
Birth Place: Sheffield
Death Date: 9 Oct 1917
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Sheffield
Rank: Private
Regiment: Lincolnshire Regiment
Battalion: 6th Battalion
Number: 41881
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

Janette

Janette Report 20 Mar 2011 16:46

Hi Catherine sorry about that just checking my tree again Alice Turton married Alfred Ford he was born Letwell south yorkshire and Alice born Rorherham.they had a daughter called Jenny Ford born 1912

Janette

Janette Report 20 Mar 2011 16:47

I have Jenny as born in Canada and died 2002

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Mar 2011 18:01

Why didn't you say that the daughter was born in Canada? This looks like them on the 1911 census in Canada:

St. Mary's, New Brunswick

Ford Thomas M Head M Jan 32
Ford Lilly F Wife M May 32
Ford Alfred M Brother M Mar 26
Ford Alice F Sister-in-law M Sep 22
Ford Carrie F Niece S Feb 7/12

Original says that Alfred emigrated 1909 and Alice 1910.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Mar 2011 18:12

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Alfred Ford Name: Alfred Ford
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Date of Arrival: 7 May 1909
Vessel: Laurentian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Laurentian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4760


MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Mar 2011 18:36

Registration of births York County, May 1930

Caroline Ford born 25 Feb. 1911, Gibson
Jenny Ford born 18 Dec. 1912, (can't make out birthplace)
William Herbert Ford born 18 July 1918, "

Father for all 3 was Alfred Ford, lumberman and Alice Turton.

Janette

Janette Report 20 Mar 2011 18:40

Hi Madbull thankyou for your help.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Mar 2011 18:49

You couldn't find their marriage because they were evidently married in Canada. She emigrated as Alice Turton in 1910. Reason for emigrating was "going to be married"

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Alice Turton Name: Alice Turton
Gender: Female
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Date of Arrival: 10 Apr 1910
Vessel: Lake Manitoba
Search Ship Database: View the 'Lake Manitoba' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: St John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4822


Janette

Janette Report 20 Mar 2011 19:03

Hi do you think Alfred and Alice might have been married in Canada?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Mar 2011 19:08

Their marriage:

Acadia, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1670-1946
about Alice Turton Name: Alice Turton
Spouse: Alfred Ford
Event Year: 1888-1919
Event: Mariage (Marriage)
Religion: Catholique
Place of Worship or Institution: Frédéricton (Bureau de Santé)
Province: Acadie (Nova Scotia and New Brunswick) (New Brunswick)


His residence was Zionville, St. Mary's, New Brunswick. He was born Letwell, Yorkshire. He was a farmer. Parents William & Jane Ford. Her residence was Swinton, Yorkshire, born Wath, Yorkshire. Her parents not given.

Andrew

Andrew Report 20 Mar 2011 19:12

1891 census for Alfred

1891 England Census
about Alfred Ford Name: Alfred Ford
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Wm Ford
Mother's Name: Jane Ford
Gender: Male
Where born: Letwell, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Letwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Letwell
Town: Letwell
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Worksop
Sub-registration district: Carlton
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Wm Ford 47
Jane Ford 48
Jane Ford 13
Clara Ford 11
Thomas Ford 9
Alfred Ford 7
Henry Mundy 20
George King 17


Andy

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Mar 2011 19:20

Well, looks like we solved that one. We do have a little discrepancy though. On the 1891 census brother Thomas is only 2 years older than Alfred but on the 1911 census in Canada Thomas is 6 years older.
How much do you want to bet that he lied about his age so that he wouldn't appear to be younger than his wife?

Janette

Janette Report 20 Mar 2011 19:41

The age thing does seam to happen a lot. thanks again Janette.did Alice and Alfred die in Canada?