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Hi Catherine,no what i did was looked on the war greaves because of the date and many service men died at war around that date.i was asking if it was possible that it was the same person. thanks Janette.

Janette,
I thought you said your Alfred died in 1918 in WW1?

Hi Madbull, thankyou again for all your help with all the info you have given me.Janette.

The incoming passenger lists has the following arriving Liverpool 23 August 1919 from Montreal aboard the "Canada"
Ford, Alice, 30
Caroline, 8
Jenny, 6
William, 3
Heading to 16 Picadilly Swindon nr Rotherham. Last residence Canada, future permanent residence England.

A tree on Ancestry has Alfred's death 1 March 1919, Fredericton, New Brunswick and Alice 30 Dec. 1972, Swinton, Yorkshire. Jenny died 26 june 2002, Steeton, Yorkshire.

The age thing does seam to happen a lot. thanks again Janette.did Alice and Alfred die in Canada?

Well, looks like we solved that one. We do have a little discrepancy though. On the 1891 census brother Thomas is only 2 years older than Alfred but on the 1911 census in Canada Thomas is 6 years older.
How much do you want to bet that he lied about his age so that he wouldn't appear to be younger than his wife?

1891 census for Alfred

1891 England Census
about Alfred Ford Name: Alfred Ford
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Wm Ford
Mother's Name: Jane Ford
Gender: Male
Where born: Letwell, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Letwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Letwell
Town: Letwell
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Worksop
Sub-registration district: Carlton
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Wm Ford 47
Jane Ford 48
Jane Ford 13
Clara Ford 11
Thomas Ford 9
Alfred Ford 7
Henry Mundy 20
George King 17


Andy

Their marriage:

Acadia, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1670-1946
about Alice Turton Name: Alice Turton
Spouse: Alfred Ford
Event Year: 1888-1919
Event: Mariage (Marriage)
Religion: Catholique
Place of Worship or Institution: Frédéricton (Bureau de Santé)
Province: Acadie (Nova Scotia and New Brunswick) (New Brunswick)


His residence was Zionville, St. Mary's, New Brunswick. He was born Letwell, Yorkshire. He was a farmer. Parents William & Jane Ford. Her residence was Swinton, Yorkshire, born Wath, Yorkshire. Her parents not given.

Hi do you think Alfred and Alice might have been married in Canada?

You couldn't find their marriage because they were evidently married in Canada. She emigrated as Alice Turton in 1910. Reason for emigrating was "going to be married"

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Alice Turton Name: Alice Turton
Gender: Female
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Date of Arrival: 10 Apr 1910
Vessel: Lake Manitoba
Search Ship Database: View the 'Lake Manitoba' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: St John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4822

Hi Madbull thankyou for your help.

Registration of births York County, May 1930

Caroline Ford born 25 Feb. 1911, Gibson
Jenny Ford born 18 Dec. 1912, (can't make out birthplace)
William Herbert Ford born 18 July 1918, "

Father for all 3 was Alfred Ford, lumberman and Alice Turton.

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Alfred Ford Name: Alfred Ford
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Date of Arrival: 7 May 1909
Vessel: Laurentian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Laurentian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4760

Why didn't you say that the daughter was born in Canada? This looks like them on the 1911 census in Canada:

St. Mary's, New Brunswick

Ford Thomas M Head M Jan 32
Ford Lilly F Wife M May 32
Ford Alfred M Brother M Mar 26
Ford Alice F Sister-in-law M Sep 22
Ford Carrie F Niece S Feb 7/12

Original says that Alfred emigrated 1909 and Alice 1910.

I have Jenny as born in Canada and died 2002

Hi Catherine sorry about that just checking my tree again Alice Turton married Alfred Ford he was born Letwell south yorkshire and Alice born Rorherham.they had a daughter called Jenny Ford born 1912

There's this one but he was killed in 1917?

Name: Alfred Ford
Birth Place: Sheffield
Death Date: 9 Oct 1917
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Sheffield
Rank: Private
Regiment: Lincolnshire Regiment
Battalion: 6th Battalion
Number: 41881
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

Janette,
You say that he married Alice but you haven't answered my question. To find a possible marriage we need at least a date.
Do you know if they had any children and if yes, what were their names and when and where were they born?
This info may help find that marriage!

Hi all i know is he was born Rawmarsh Rotherham or Sheffield thanks