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I have a Rosa H Stone born 1850 Bedworth, Warwickshire, in the 1861 census living in staffordshire, but cant seem to find her in 1851.

Any help please Helen

1861 to show names of parents

Name: Rosa H Stone
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thos
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Bedworth, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Darlaston
Ecclesiastical parish: Darlaston St George
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Walsall
Sub registration district: Darlaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
William Page 27
Emma Stone 16 Astley
Harriett Stone 18 Astley
Mary Stone 48 Astley
Mary Ann Stone 9
Rosa H Stone 11
Rosa Hannah Stone 7
Thos Stone 37 Astley

Not sure if they are the parents, why would they have two children with the same name?

Also Emma age 16 is listed last of the children - usually listed in age order with eldest first

One might guess that Rosa Hannah the elder is actually a daughter of one of the other daughters!

Rosa H is actually Rosa M -- compare to M in Mary.

There seem to be a few Rosanna's on FreeBMD, which sounds like Rose Hannah.

And the other one is all one word -- Rosahannah, more likely Rosanna.

Births Mar 1854
Stone Rosanna Walsall 6b 477

Also strange on that image that the children are listed after William Page - a relation

I have the family in 1851, but no rosa, they are called west then

william page is marys son, she was mary page

1851 ??

Name: Thomas West
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ratley, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Bedworth
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Foleshill
Sub registration district: Foleshill
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 106
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Page 16
William Page 18
Emma West 6
Harriett West 8
Maria West 1
Mary West 39
Thomas West 27

So she could be Maria in 1851 ?

I dont know, strange family dont know why they changed their name to stone

Maria would fit with her being Rosa M in 1861 -- a person who went by a middle name often showed it as an initial, or vice versa, if Maria was the first name and Rosa the second, Rosa M would also be a common way of reporting the name.

Or she might be a child of William -- he shows in 1861 as married (although it is a ditto), but no wife is present ...

yes it could be maria, Thomas page is my husbands gr gr grandfather, dont know who william and thomas father is

Thankyou very much for your help

Another team effort! My own contribution being rather small, but you're welcome, lol.

I've looked and looked for Ros*s and Mar*s by any likely surname in any likely place in the birth records, but to no avail ...

i cant find any of the births either, i think i,ve found what i think is the marriage for mary page and thomas west and sent for the cert today, so i hope its the right one.

I think your right about Maria.

Any ideas why the changed their name to stone?

Or is it another thomas and she married again?