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An amusing one this is if not a little puzzling.

Amos Armstrong was born in 1850 in Goldington Bedfordshire ( father James ) in 1861 he was at home in 1871 he was a police constable in St Savoir London BUT
in 1881 he had moved to Beighton Derbyshire married Martha Staniforth nee Mitchell ( in 1876 ) and changed his name to James and was a general labourer. He married Martha as James Armstrong.
Not to be confused with his cousin James Armstrong b 1847 in Goldington Beds and a police constable in London.
In 1886 Martha died leaving 3wk old twins and 3 other children to James / Amos plus 3 Staniforth children at home.
1891 saw the twins adopted and the other 6 children with their elder sister.
The question is where did James / Amos go to as I can't find him anywhere ?????

Can anybody else please ?

I have nudged this to to see if anyone can solve my mystery

edited .

I have met with one of my half cousins, from the Armstrong side, briefly but we are meeting next week for a day, and we are both baffled

Death index
how about this one?if so who is the twins father!!
Name: Amop Armstrong
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Year of Registration: 1883
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 33
District: Rotherham
County: Derbyshire, South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 327

edit it is Amos on the image

twins
Births Jun 1886 (>99%)

Armstrong Hugh Mills Rotherham 9c 591
Armstrong Leonard Carnall Rotherham 9c 591

1891 Leonard? with someone related to the father of Leonard!
Name: Leonard C Armstroy
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Adopted
Gender: Male
Where born: Hackenthorpe, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Beighton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Beighton
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Household Members: Name Age
Leonard C Armstroy 5
Chas Carnall 42
Fanny Carnall 34



where is Hugh?

death index
so have i got the right children as you said they were adopted in 1891
Name: Hugh Mills Armstrong
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 0
District: Rotherham
County: Derbyshire, South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 322

Hugh Mills Armstrong is one of the twins he died a yr later
so is Leonard who was adopted by Charles and Fanny Carnall band carried he name Carnall Armstrong

but where did their father go ?

Janice yes you are right on that as far as I know

What about the death that Janice found?

Janice you have then right but where is the father ???

sorry Claire which death ....so excited that others are looking

Uzzi see the post at 18.19

Janice there is a death for Hugh a yr later
as Hugh Mills Armstrong

PS Janice the other person looking is from Len !!!

yes thanks Claire I know he is there Dad I just want to know where he went when their mam died ... he left 8kids behind

so the death index i posted isnt the one for Amos,only seems to be theone Amos through the census years ,so i think it is him.
Have you got wifes death cert. does it say who the informant was?

Jan the death index you gave was for 1883 but the twins werent born until 1886 no i dont have Martha 's death but me dad and me gt aunts told that me gggran took all the kids on board

might need to have an open mind about him being the father my mums brother was born after her father had died (but still had his surname) and before her mother married again. It might be £7 well spent in getting one of the twins birth certs or the death cert as it seems to fit --right age and registration area same as wifes death /twins birth (if only to rule out that its the wrong one!!)as there never seems to be another Amos through the census years, see what your half cousin thinks

1901
Name: Fanny Carnall
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles
Gender: Female
Where born: Masbrough, Yorkshire, England

Name: Charles Carnall
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Fanny
Mother's Name: Hannah A
Gender: Male
Where born: Harkenthorpe, Derbyshire, England


Name: Leonard C Armstrong
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Adopted Son
Gender: Male
Where born: Huckenthorpe, Derbyshire, England

Name: Hannah A Elliott
Age: 85
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Middleton, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Beighton
Ecclesiastical parish: Beighton St Mary
so is this a marriage for Hannah


Marriages Jun 1876 (>99%)
CARNALL Hannah Agnes Sheffield 9c 536
Elliott Joseph Sheffield 9c 536

FOSTER Elizabeth Sheffield 9c 536
Greaves Matthew Sheffield 9c 536

Not sure where Somerset came in but this looks like her in 1871
Name: Hannah A Carnall
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Melledton, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Beighton
Town: Hackenthorpe

Name: Charles Carnall
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Hannah A
Gender: Male
Where born: Beighton, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Beighton
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Carnall 23
Hannah A Carnall 53
Harriet Carnall 9
Leonard Carnall 11
Thomas Hatton 25 --Relation: Boarder

so wonder if Leonard Armstrong was named after this one.
Could Charles/Fanny have registered the birth as mother had died 3 weeks after the birth, and perhaps a Mills family registered Hugh