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I have my grandfather's date and place of death, but don't know how old he was. I have the same information for his wife, my grandmother. Where do I go from here?
Please can someone point me in the right direction, I have posted on the 'trying to find board' but to no avail. If someone can tell me what to do, I'd be very grateful.
Thanks in anticipation.
Sue Cole

sorry Sue I have editted mis read it......does it not have his age on the cert ?

What was the date of their deaths? and their full names.

Helen

Look for their marriage...............both ages will be on that certificate.

Track back from the birth of the eldest child to find it.

xx

Yes. It says 75 yrs old. But I know the person who registered his death and, to be frank, she wasn't the most trustworthy person. I have searched records +5 and -5 years either way, but to no avail.
By the way, thanks for the quick reply
Sue

where did he die Sue ?

He died in Duffryn Rhonda, South Wales
Sue

Charles Wall, died 14 Feb 1954
Mary (nee James) died 23 Dec 1939

Thanks for help everyone.
Sue

All children from their marriage are now dead. I only have my own father's dob, so that doesn't really help.

Sue

Do you know where your grandfather was born?

Sue

or the 1901 census as he should of been born then...

Is this him? Wales 1901 Census

Name: Charles E Wall
Age in 1901: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Cymer, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil Parish: Canton
Ecclesiastical parish: Canton St Paul
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: West Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 435
Household Members: Name Age
Charles E Wall 26
John C Wall 19 months
Mary Wall 25

Sue

Do you have your grandparents marriage cert - it will give their ages on that? If you haven't then you will need to search back from their eldest childs birth to find it.

Mary

Here he is in 1891

Name Relationship to
Head of H'hold Condition Sex Age Profession/Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

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WALL, James Head Married M 50 Coal Labourer
Laverton
Somersetshire VIEW
WALL, Ann Wife Married F 50
Stowell
Somersetshire VIEW
WALL, George Son Single M 18 Coal Labourer
Huntspill
Somersetshire VIEW
WALL, William Son Single M 17 Coal Haulier
Huntspill
Somersetshire VIEW
WALL, Alice Daughter F 16
Huntspill
Somersetshire VIEW
WALL, Charles Son M 14 Coal Doorboy
Huntspill
Somersetshire VIEW
WALL, Frank Son M 10 Scholar
Huntspill
Somersetshire VIEW
POPE, Eva Jane Visitor Single F 5
Huntspill
Somersetshire VIEW
POPE, William Boarder Married M 30 Surface Colliery Labourer
Shapwick
Somersetshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
4427 Folio:
52 Page:
43

Registration District:
Pontypridd Sub District:
Ystradyfodwg EnumerationDistrict:
29 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Andrews

Civil Parish:
Ystradyfodwg Municipal Borough:
Address:
9, Eleanor Street, Ystradyfodwg, Clydach County:
Glamorganshire


Sue

That would make your Charles born around 1877 in Somerset. He would have been 77 when he died in 1954.

Sue

There would appear to be a number of possible Charles Wall's. As Kitty says you need your Grandparent's marriage cert to find out his age & his father's name & occupation.

1901 Wales Census
about Charles Wall
Name: Charles Wall
Age in 1901: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Ystradyfodwg
Ecclesiastical parish: Llwynypia St Andrew
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Ystradyfodwg
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 184
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Lloyd 24
Ann Wall 59
Charles Wall 23
Frank Wall 21
George Wall 28

Same family group with your grandfather aged 3 in 1881

Name Relationship to
Head of H'hold Condition Sex Age Profession/Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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WALL, James Head Married M 41 Laborer
Huntspill
Somerset
WALL, Ann Wife Married F 40
Huntspill
Somerset
WALL, George Son Single M 9 Scholar
Huntspill
Somerset
WALL, William Son Single M 7 Scholar
Huntspill
Somerset
WALL, Alice Daughter Single F 5
Huntspill
Somerset
WALL, Charles Son Single M 3
Huntspill
Somerset
WALL, Frank Son Single M 0
Huntspill
Somerset

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
2377 Folio:
34 Page:
11

Registration District:
Bridgwater Sub District:
Huntspill EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Huntspill Municipal Borough:
Address:
Withy Road, Huntspill County:
Somersetshire

Sue

The Walls are numerous in the Bridgwater area especially down on the Somerset Levels in the Huntspill and West Hay areas. I know quite a number!

A lot of people from around here moved to south Wales at the end of the 19th century.

Do you want me to go further back in Somerset? I have the 1851 on discs.

Sue
x

This looks like the marriage of James and Ann

Marriages Mar 1871
Dyer Ann Bridgwater 5c 577
Wall James Bridgwater 5c 577


Sue