General Chat

One thing the strict Muslim leaders have got nearly right is how to deal with the above-mentioned.

A gang of youths in Saudi Arabia, molested a group of women dressed the traditional Muslim costume. One of the women was repeatedly prodded, humiliated rather than severely assaulted, whilst other members of the gang jeered and photographed the affair on mobile phones Last week, 10 men aged between 17 and 26 were convicted of assault and other minor offences including speaking to the women and giving out their telephone numbers. They were given jail sentence and ordered to be flogged. The leader of the gang got 10 years and 600 lashes. len

Hi Len maybe we should folow suit with here in England

here here I totally agree with that sort of punishment. My lad witnessed this going on in his school so i phoned the school and reported it. dont know if anything got done about it a I did not give my sons name in case of reprissals Gloria

Yes I think we could do with some of those punishments here in the U.K. Maybe some of those cocky yobs in hoodies wouldn't be so 'hard' if they got a few lashes across their backs and it might deter the younger ones from following in their footsteps.

What happened to 'an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth'?

for some people to say its a turn on to watch others beaten and humiliated proves that caning and the slipper were good deterents and a not too severe punishment for out generation...without a punishment that fits the crime how do we expect to control the young 'gangsters',,its obvious the parents and teachers cant..if i found any of my family commiting crimes of violence i would get 25 years for murdering my own

I agree with these agressive morons being punished, and I suppose, given strict Islamic law, that 10 years in jail isn't surprising, but 600 lashes? That is barbaric and has no place in modern times, even if the punishment is given over the 10 years, and not all at once (which would kill the person). I don't agree with criminals receiving corporal punishment for more minor offences, but I do agree with the death penalty for murder when there is absolute proof of guilt. As for 'Happy Slapping', it's just another product of a selfish society, in which too many children grow up without being shown how or taught to respect their fellow humans and probably don't even give a second thought to the welfare or feelings of others. It's all ME, ME, ME and aren't 'I' wonderful, but the only way in which these moronic 'slappers' can make themselves look what they think is 'good' or 'clever' is by humiliating other people. They're pathetic, as are all bullies. CB >|<

It's ridiculously disproportionate punishment. Gloryer - 'An eye for an eye' etc is just a quotation from the Bible - there are millions of them and half of them contradict the other half:) Even if that was used it would mean that the gang received the same treatment they gave.

Len All I can say to that is ....THREE CHEERS FOR SAUDI ARABIA We've already had one death through this so called pastime a barman was kicked to death BY GIRLS Paul

in my opinion. not all who do this for fun are bad youngsters,most are just following suit. i don`t think washing brickwalls etc would deter anyone. by putting a severe punishment,would at least deter those that follow. in the 70`s i was punched in the back by my headmaster for not standing still in line in the playground. most people would say that was barbaric for todays standards,but i did`nt do it again,and i have no quibble for him doing it. infact i respect now what he did,not at the time mind you. i don`t think a shouting at or tapped hand would have done the trick. derek

CB So you think corporal punishment is barbaric.? Do we not live in barbaric times? Is it not barbaric to mug and beat to death members of the public. Happy slapping has caused death on a number of occassions and the reult by the law? Either manslaughter or accidental death. What is accidental when gangs go on the rampage and maim people. This situation is a direct result of no respect and for all the good , the liberal minded have done in abandoning corporal punishment where this is justified,they should have kept their ideas to themselves. Unfortunately most people who advocate such lenient measures ,and this includes those morons in government,and who have never had a taste of these individuals and gangs ,will soon change their tune when they are hurt or frightened to venture out because of such trouble. Bring back justice and punishment that fits the crime. Bring back coporal punishment before it is too late to turn the tide against this criminal society. Rupert (with no apologies for my views.)

This is the 21st century ! Flogging ?? 10 years jail ? For what ? Humiliating a woman, jeering ? Giving out their telephone numbers ? In Saudi if a woman as much as speaks to a man she is flogged or even in some past cases put to death. I know Britain is soft but I hope that it never adopts the barbaric nature of Saudi, who seem to be behind by about 200 years..... Elaine x

well done Rupert and the rest of you , we are a nation of softies and its gone to far. time to stand up and be counted. We are a laughing stock of the rest of the world no other Country would put up with what we do from our youngsters or our visitors. any one like to try going to another Country and burning there flags in there Streets oops got carried away a bit there

Think the punishment is a tad OTT< but then again if they knew the rules and knowingly flaunted them. Well then they got their just desserts. We as a country do tend to be too soft. And the death of the barman wasn't by girls..... it was three lads and a girl.

In my opinion we are far tooooo soft and our prisons are overcrowded. I think if somebody has come to our country to live either as an immigrant or asylum seeker if they break the law then they should be immediately deported no matter what and not put in our prisons at our expense. I am not a racists but they should respect the laws of the land that they want to live in Gloria

Just like to add, that the Saudi woman wasn't killed or even severely assaulted. If she had been, maybe the punishment would have fitted. But she hadn't been killed or severely assaulted...had she ? Elaine x

When adults molest and murder babies and the infirm and elderly are mugged for sometimes a few pence, I wonder how and why we are raising our children. They know that punishment for their behaviour is minimal and laugh and ridicule their elders and the police who seem to have their hands tied. My brother, just before he died was happy slapped in a small village, when he returner the action the 13 year old threatened him with his father and the police, My brothers reply was,' Bring them all here I would love to talk to them', the boy went off crying but no one appeared. My brother was recovering from a heart attack and was only 50 yards from his home. I do not believe in thrashing but I do think we have as a society gone far to far the other way

The punishment doesn,t fit the crime these days. However threads such as these are an outlet but a waste of time. The horse has bolted and it,s not coming back Do gooders is a funny word but I think you know what I mean - they are now fully entrenched. From a crime and punishment angle, I thought a Tory government would be a good thing, but DC seems as wishy washy as the others. Sleep soundly. Happy days

Rupert, You are, of course, entitled to think as you wish. My mother hit me throughout my childhood, alongside a great deal of verbal abuse, not for bad behaviour but because she had a vile temper. I hated her for it then, and I still do. There are those who say that corporal punishment never did them any harm, but it certainly harmed me. It didn't engender respect. That is why I don't believe in it. 'Might' doesn't equal 'Right' in my book, and having seen what a gang of thugs did to my son and his friend on two occasions virtually on my own doorstep, I still wouldn't advocate those boys being whipped. CB >|<