General Chat

Tor, My apologies for my glibe remark earlier. The little i saw of Manchester last summer didn,t give me a fair assesment of the city. However, I think it,s unfair to cite a casino as the reason for crime and drug problems in ANY city. Those problems have been there for years, on both sides of the Atlantic and a casino isn,t going to change that. As for people spending their housekeeping money in a casino, don,t hardened gamblers do that already via betting shops, lotteries, bingo halls and illegal gambling 'joints'?

NO! NO! NO! *clears throat after shouting* And I say that with good reason; I used to be married to a compulsive gambler, and lost thousands. This will only make things worse for an awful lot of people. NO! x

Im a mancunian and I Dont think it a good thing at all:-(( I hate gambling,I think its just money down the drain,which in most cases is it,you cant win with these people! Its also in a disadvantaged area which I find worrying,too.

Carol I live near Manchester too. One of my other problems with a super casino is Manchester got it to enable urban regeneration. Since the IRA bombings I think Manchester has done a fantastic job of regenerating the city. It is a pleasure to shop and socialise in. The super casino seems to be a quick fix for a problem that is already being solved at a pace that suits the city.

But where is all this extra money going to come from ? From the housekeeping money? Yeah ok a lot of folks have more money than they know what to do with,so if that's what they want to do with it -ok But those who don't? So it will bring more employment into the city,but a h** of a lot more problems also.What about the fathers and mothers who gamble all their salary,just like the parents 'escaping' from reality in the 1900's. absolutley no to Manchester casino!

Tor, Atlanta has always had a higher crime rate than 'Mainstreet' America. A new casino was opened in Niagara Falls a few years ago and, like it,s sister casino in N Falls, Ontario, has had little impact on the crime rate in that city. If anything, it has reduced the property taxes for most of it,s inhabitants because of the tax revenue it generates. Having said that, I can,t see that one in Manchester would be beneficial to most residents there. You can,t make a silk purse out of a sows ear. Lol. Sorry to Dave and Catherine. That last was in reference to the city...not it,s lovely people.

And me ...lol

Carol - friends who now live in Spokane (sp) Washington State used to live in Atlanta the figures come from Atlanta PD. T.O.R. xx

T.O.R. yes you are probably right in that those who can least afford will end up paying. To employ 2,000 people, say at a nominal £10k salary, implies £20 million wage bill, with overheads, say, £50 million to run it? Assuming the house takes 5% this requires a turnover of one billion pounds every year, and that is some money for just one casino.

Tor, Can I ask you where you got your statistical information from, regarding the rise in crime in the cities here with casinos?

T O R I can understand that...but a gambler is a glamber and will go anywhere for the buzz just like a drug addict will for a fix. Wheather it be a super casino or a betting shop.. I thought it would go to London as they have a great big dome there doing nothing.

Hayley - the way crime increases around casino towns in America I hope at least 700 of those 2700 jobs are police officers and paramedics. They'll be needed to cope with the increases in shootings, muggings, drug offences and other serious crime. For the possible 2700 extra jobs how many people are going to lose their homes or on a smaller (but more important) scale deprive their children of food because they have gambled the family income away. Sorry I'm seriously against this. I gamble but NOT casinos - poker and bridge with friends - a sociable evening that happens to involve money. What is sociable about casinos? Sorry I'll get off my high horse now. T.O.R. xx

I live in Dartford which is not far from Greenwich and I am so glad its not going to be there. Sue

I see a casino is coming to not far from where i live.... MIDDLESBROUGH. R.B.

Lynda ?

OMG

Well its miles and miles away from me..but anything to bring employment to the area..

Hayley this was in Manchester Evening News last September a casino with more than 1,000 unlimited jackpot slot-machines built as part of a huge leisure complex near the City of Manchester stadium. The project could create 2,700 jobs. Seemingly decision still has to be ratified by Government.

Here in Rainham Essex there were rumors of having Disney,but that went to Paris,and last year a casino .I for one am glad we didn't get them. Sue.

Absolutley no! We don't have casinos in the free areas of Cyprus,but the government is being pushed to allow them.There are many in the occupied area and many Greeks are losing so much money over there that their children are going hungry(or they would be if the close family ties didn't exist) Absolutely no Manchester--I love my city too much to want any more problems there.