General Chat

If the blonde children share the DNA of their parents what is the problem?.

It's the taking the child away until the DNA proves that the child is theirs.

That makes them guilty until proved innocent.

The term gipsy tends to be used for all kinds of travellers and tinkers including Irish travellers as well as Roma. The Roma are a distinct race with origins in northern India about 1000 years ago. I went to a talk given by a geneticist who told us that a DNA test could easily establish whether anyone had Roma ancestry through genes passed on through mothers. There are certain, very english sounding surnames that are known to be Romany in origin. I found a traveller a few generations back in my tree and then later discovered my maiden surname, the same as the traveller's was a Roma name. When people hear the word 'gipsy' they think of the worst kinds of travellers and tar them all with the same brush. Here's a Romany word for you Bob.......'Kushti'. lol. :-) ;-)

Kushti.............
very Del boy!!

well, to me a Gypsy was a traveller in a horse drawn barrel shaped caravan
Tinkers were another variety,
then there are the fairground types,


but the irresponsible travellers that litter any bit of ground that they can force their way into..............well they are the dross in my opinion........

Bob

Yes, very Del boy as you say! :-)

Gipsies only had horsedrawn caravans (Vardos) since around the mid 1800s. In the early censuses you often find them in tents!! They would travel by foot then pushing handcarts. Then built their tents on trailers drawn by horses. Organised gangs steal the handsome old Vardos these days.

No-one would disagree with you about the irresponsible travellers, whatever their origins, who leave disgusting mess behind.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24645947

DNA tests have proved that a seven-year-old girl taken from a Roma family in Dublin on Monday is their daughter.

The family said they were "delighted" that their daughter had come home.

They also said they would be taking legal advice, and that serious questions have arisen over the procedures used in the case.

The blonde-haired, blue-eyed girl had been removed by police from her Tallaght home and taken into temporary care.

The family have supported calls from human rights group Pavee Point for an independent inquiry into the investigation.

In a statement issued through their solicitor the family said: "Her removal has been a cause of huge upset to her parents, her brothers and sisters, and the young girl herself.

"They now intend to concentrate on looking after their family and, in particular, in trying to reassure their daughter that she will be left in their care.

So traumatic for these children and in the case above she has been proven to belong to her family. As others have said, a DNA test should be done as quickly as possible before the child is removed from the family. The harm done can take years to be worked through and can scar the child for life. It's so wrong.

Lizx

A local comedian sketch has indicated that 'cuckoldry' was responsible for these two sad incidents in Ireland.

Well they have proved that 2 Irish children taken from Roma parents are actually their children. And it looks as if they have traced the Bulgarian woman with a lot of children and very poor who sold the little girl to the Roma family in Greece.

The Catholic church in Ireland was deservedly slated for keeping schtum about clerical abuses.

Now the people are being publicly rebuked for reporting those two blonde children's whereabouts to the authorities.

There's no pleasing some.