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Mauatthecoast
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24 May 2010 19:10 |
It is if it's just 'pocket money' Maggie x
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maggiewinchester
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24 May 2010 18:58 |
I heard (on the radio) that Fergie's divorce settlement is £15,000 a year. Damn sight more than I got - but still, it's not much is it?
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Mauatthecoast
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24 May 2010 18:48 |
I agree with Rita's remarks. Fergie is sorry because she got caught out and I think she will now have lost Andrew's respect. She's had an easy carefree life,she might not be Royalty but has lived the life of one for years. Lots of folk do charity work but choose to be modest and keep a low profile.
In my opinion she's just plain greedy. When I first read the story my first thoughts were of the Queen who must have thought 'Oh no not another scandal'......lol
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UzziAndHerDogs
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24 May 2010 18:28 |
*blows xxxx to Robin *
>>>>>>>exits laughing
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Pamela
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24 May 2010 18:23 |
Well, Robin there you have it.
After all, there's always Tiger Wood seeing you made the reference to golf courses and all.
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Pamela
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24 May 2010 18:18 |
Hello all,
I’m new to this thread but some of you have met me on others.
How true it is that women have had to compromise to survive. Not just in the deep past history, either. I know I did. Won’t go into boring or sordid detail, but when you have children, no job, no money and no family backing what do you do?
I know that Fergie’s lifestyle is a far cry from us, (or most of us, I’m thinking) it doesn’t mean that life is any easier for her than folks such as me on the lower end of the scale. I think that she’s been treated rather shabbily by the Royals. After all, she did some silly things but for goodness sake, what about the rest of them? Maybe they’ve just been smart enough or lucky enough not to have been caught by some sleazebag paperazzi with a zoom lens. I know that a lot of people won’t share my opinion but then, as a dear friend said to me some years ago when we were having a difference of opinion. “You’re entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it may be.”
Pam
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JaneyCanuck
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24 May 2010 18:09 |
Uzzi, I've replied in the actual thread.
It isn't my job to report all the facts / alleged facts, really. They exist and can easily be found. My words about whether she was drunk or not drunk have nothing to do with the facts. And being drunk is not an excuse for committing a crime. I'm sure you know.
It does not matter, for the purposes of the criminal law, whether someone was set up to do something *they then did*. They did it. One might think it was a dirty trick, but I know I don't break the law just because somebody tries to persuade / trick me into doing it.
It's not like she broke the law, if she did, because she thought that by doing so she would save someone's life or something.
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UzziAndHerDogs
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24 May 2010 17:59 |
JaneyCanuck Today at 17:37 Request review
Uzzi ... It Does Not Matter.
The criminal offence of bribery is committed when the person accepts the bribe in exchange for the promise.
How serious one regards the offence as being may depend on how likely the scheme was to succeed.
Janey it does matter, did she set the whole thing up or was she set up?
Yes I know it's a criminal offence to accept a bribe, lol I have coppers in my family and thugs I don't need the law quoted at me.
But was she was in your words "drunk" so she was set up !
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24 May 2010 17:51 |
Thanks for fixing the thread Janey, it happens with URLS and any threads that have a long stretch of kisses etc... partly because i have the print set over large for my dodgy eyesight i think.
i watched the video on the NOTW's own site, ( and prior to that on TV) it was my opinion, having seen Sarah give interviews before that she may well have had one too many...though, to be fair, she might equally have been suffering from depression ? and not really 'with it'... either of those two options might account for a lapse in judgement .
xx
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JaneyCanuck
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24 May 2010 17:39 |
And Rose, anybody else who actually decides to consider a situation before forming an opinion on it, and then actually state an opinion on the situation and not on the price of tea in China instead, is always a ray of sunshine. ;)
(I fixed that url problem on page 4, I think it was -- this site started breaking up long urls in my browser some time ago, and I had just assumed it was the same for everybody.)
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JaneyCanuck
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24 May 2010 17:37 |
Uzzi ... It Does Not Matter.
The criminal offence of bribery is committed when the person accepts the bribe in exchange for the promise.
How serious one regards the offence as being may depend on how likely the scheme was to succeed.
But the person who accepts the bribe in exchange for the promise commits a crime.
As to whether she was drunk at the time of the actual exchange of cash -- I'll just say that the first thing No.1 said on seeing the video on BBC World -- No. 1 being a source I trust on drunks ;) -- was "she's drunk". ;)
Who knows how it went down? Anybody who watches the video, I guess.
And do we really think that, scummy as the journalist might be, he's likely to risk his future income by outright lying? Fergie certainly hasn't suggested that.
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24 May 2010 17:36 |
Hi Janey, I just couldn't add yesterday ( on a ban !) and when i could add this morning the thread was off the side of my screen :) or I would have posted there.
But it wasn't especially the in and outs of the case that interested me ( though that does too) more what drives people, in this case 'need' of money.
I have to say that I am rarely 'intimidated' by your posts, or long words or C & Ps...what I don't understand i can always google ;) learning is good :)
lol and I never feel that you are trying to harangue me if I take an opposing view to yours probably because of that inborn conviction that when 'I'm right, I'm right' ;) and nothing will sway me ... which is not to say that I am not willing to listen to both sides , just that I then make my own judgements which sometimes goes against the 'norm' I think.
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UzziAndHerDogs
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24 May 2010 17:29 |
Janey did she actually arrange the introduction with Andrew?
Not just say she would but actually did so ?
No, not what I have read, therefore what has she done wrong? the NotW offered money to her to meet him, she (in her cups) agreed and took £40,000 of their money. Now who was pulling the scam did she set the meet up or did they? Is she the culprit here who asked the NoW reporters to meet her in exchange for info or did the NotW reporters find her offer her a few drinks and then KNOWING her finincial circumstances offer her money to meet her ex.
WHO KNOWS how it went down. Fergie probably doesn't remember (you did say she was drunk) and the NotW won't tell.
Sorry Rose
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JaneyCanuck
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24 May 2010 17:14 |
Gosh, a whole new thread full of people opinionating away without a thought for the facts.
Me, Rose?
If I took money in return for arranging a personal introduction to my ex-spouse with the intention that my actions would influence him to act contrary to his public duty, and my ex-spouse held a position of trust as a representative of my country, I'd expect to be prosecuted, no matter how much money it had taken to persuade me to commit a crime.
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JaneyCanuck
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24 May 2010 17:10 |
SueMaid: "I know what you're saying Rose - however if you did you wouldn't make the news:-)) I also haven't posted on the other thread but mainly because I don't want to be belittled, lectured to and I don't want to feel I need to have to explain every last word I write."
Huh! You're saying you would have been totally incapable of composing a post containing anything but an attempt to divert the discussion from the subject, and personal attacks on the person who started the discussion?? And then you would represent comments pointing out what you were doing as being "belittled, lectured to" etc.??
How sad for you. ;)
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MrDaff
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24 May 2010 14:26 |
Ahhh, so that is now clear... it is not everyone on the other thread, just some!.... thank you for the apology, and for making it clear, Robin.
Dizzi, I know.... and it still is, or was until a couple of years ago... I was headhunted myself... huge ego boost, lolol
Do you remember the *brain drain* when all our best young hopefuls were actively recruited to emigrate? It even happened in the forces, and my hubbie was approached more than once.... my grandchildren could have been talking like refugees from Neighbours or Home and Away now, instead of Emmerdale (Littlie) or Corrie (Princess Twinkletoes)lolol!!
Love
Daff xxxx
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DIZZI
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24 May 2010 14:19 |
CANT DO LONG WORDS NOT ENOUGH BRAIN CELLS WHO..WHY..WHAT ..WHEN..HOW MY LIMIT
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Conan
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24 May 2010 14:16 |
My apologies to Daff.
The long and obscure words I was referring to were not from you.
I think most of us were comfortably familiar with the words you used.
LOL
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DIZZI
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24 May 2010 14:15 |
DAFF REMEMBER WHEN ALL THE HEADHUNTING FOR TOP STAFF HAPPENED LOTS OF COMPANYS LOST BIG TIME BECAUSE STAFF WERE SNATCHED UNDER THEIR NOSES BY PEOPLE WHO SET IT ALL UP SAME PRINCIBLE TO ME
WONDER WHO IKNOW,,,MMMM
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MrDaff
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24 May 2010 14:10 |
wmsl..... so did I Carol, so did I, lolol ;¬))
I did use some longish words on that thread, lol... one I might even have made up... but the meaning is clear... and I don't think my words were obscure at all.... oh, and no competition as far as I was concerned.... none at all.
Dizzi, that is absolutely right.... but I suppose golf course deals will now be outlawed and villified.
It is the only way to make business deals with most of the rest of the world, as well... but here in Britain we feel that there is something underhand... which there is of course... so we don't want to be SEEN to be doing it!!
Love
Daff xxxx
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