General Chat

I was just wondering what your opinion was concerning this here
global warming?.

Is it for instance real?, or something what occurs in cycles
i ask because, in the Doomsday Book records of the 1100s
it speaks of the king being supplied with fruits you would
expect to be grown in south of France etc;

Then in the 1300s it records great waves, sunamis. Killing
vast numbers of people along the coasts of britain.

Then at another period we have all over urope and at the
same time something like 5 months of solid rain and gloomy
skies with not a glimpse of sunshine--the record reads , And
no crops were grown and everywhere people lay dead from starvation.

Colin F

Personal opinion and not fact as I don't know.

I do feel we are to blame in part so far as polution goes, making it a little harder for oxygen to be created.
We want to be bigger and better, and better and bigger.
BUT; I can't understand how "science" is saying sea levels will rise with melting ice caps,
I have see this and so have you,
what happens to drink in a sealed bottle or can when placed in the freezer?
It swells and explodeds or breakes out!!

Study has also proved that an iceberg is 90% under water.
If ice is in fact "Swollen water" what then would happen as it melts?
The area it once took up is now filled with water, therefore lessening the volumn.

I would think that waters would receed as the ice caps melt.
It would be a cycle that "We" have not recorded.

Climate change is a bandwagon, with even the scientific community arguing about it.

However, it makes a lot of commercial sense to spread alarm and despondency.

No doubt that we should take care of the worlds resources, and if it takes scaremongering to make people do it, so be it.

But I am far from convinced that we are going through anything more than a natural cycle, as we have been doing for many millions of years.

Ian

I totally agree with Ian !


Maddyxx

Hi, Everyone!

A neighbour of mine is convinced of the same, Ian. He is a profressional gardener and says that there have always been wide swings in the weather over the years.

He also thinks that the jet stream has slipped and that it why why we are getting such strong winds so regularly.

Interesting food for thought!

Lindy xxx

Article written by Richard Littlejohn in the paper this morning.

The iceman cometh......it must be March.

GLOBAL warming update.
According to NASA scientists in Maryland, the polar ice caps, far from shrinking, are actually increasing in size this year.
To the north of Canada, ice now covers two million square kilometres more than it did the past three winters and is between 10mm and 20mm thicker than last year.
In the Alps, where last year's mild winter sparked a wave of hysteria about 'global warming', they just had their best snowfall for 20 years and the skiing season kicked off two weeks early.
You won't have heard any of this inconvenient truth on the news.
Meanwhile, our own freezing Easter is taken by some as evidence of 'climate change'.
Yet I seem to remember when I was at school being taught a rhyme that went something like; 'March winds doth blow, and we shall have snow'.
So no change there, then.


This article confirms your earlier comments, global warming its just a con to collect more taxes.

There is not that much debate within the scientific community now. Something like 95+% of climatologists etc who actually know something about the subject are clear that global warming is happening at a much faster rate now than at any previous time. Undoubtedly, there are natural cycles of global warming and cooling, but it is the speed of the current change which is alarming and the evidence is clear that human activity has caused this.

To take Richard Littlejohn as the gospel on this is foolish in the extreme - it'd be like relying on Mickey Mouse for sound financial advice! He's even corrupted the old rhyme "North winds doth blow.." to fit his purposes.

There will, of course, be variance year-to-year, but this does not disguise the long-term trend. It's a bit like saying that a football team who finally wins a game 23 matches into the season won't now get relegated.

As to the gardener who commented about the jet stream "slipping", well that would indeed have an effect on Western Europe, but it would not lead to the sort of global change that has been experienced.

Well, whilst agreeing that we should take more care of the environment and reduce all forms of pollution, I still think there is a massive commercial incentive for propogating the idea of global warming due to human influence.

I spend a good proportion of the year in sub-saharan Africa and the scientists there do not subscribe to global warming theories. We measure the current changes over an extremely short period in the scale of things. Looking at the big picture, I personally don't believe there is anything out of the ordinary going on. I hope I'm right - if not, then we are in deep s......

Ian

CY if you had read the article correctly you would have seen that R.L was only repeating data from NASA scientists, I think I prefer to take notice of them than scaremongers or politicians.


Why wasn't there a mention of global warming in 1911.

July 9th. 1911. In US; 652 deaths a week reported during heatwave.

Aug 9th. 1911 London; Hottest day in the capital for 70 years---97 degrees Fahrenheit in the shade.

Aug 26th. 1911 London: Reported that 2500 children have died in the recent heatwave.

Aug 28th. 1911. The recent record-breaking heat wave with temperatures of up to 97 degrees has set Britains death rate soaring. With a mortality rate for all ages of 19 per 1,000, London is now the second most unhealthy city in the world.
It is children who are most at risk. During the last week of July, 382 children up to the age of two died in the city. In the week just ended, the figure rocketed to 855. And this was just in London.

Makes you think dosn't it, especially compared to almost a hundred years ago.

Of course this whole Earth was one vast
greenhouse untill the Nokain floods--the
evidence for this is found all over the world
Because the bad Angels came to earth
and set about altering the genetic make up
of life--by taking the daughters of men and
bringing about un-natural life ---
Blesphemy and violation of godly principals
so down came the floods and swept them all away

colin

And those dinasaurs where just a bit too big to fit on that ark ..........
Hi ya Colin ;))))

And there was me thinking that angels were sexless creatures. Are you assuming them to be male? Or could they be female? Or are they neither?

God Bless Noah!

No offence meant Colin but my OH wrote this little ditty:

"The elephants went in two by two
The ark capsized and drowned the crew."

Sorry - I'm going now.

Jill

Oherr Jill, you gonna be in trouble now lol

Nice to see you Kim hon;
Natures gardeners all these great animals
we still have the girraffe--their funtion to prune
the great vast forrests--
Adam and eve would have seen them, as to,
people living in later times. But everything including man lived on green vedgitation---after the floods
meat was eatable.
But that they lived is a fact, they were not
dangerous to man---also a fact.
Man had animals in subjection--after the floods
Noah was told--Animals would go in fear of you
and if you frighten anything it will go for you.

The Bible is the finest educational work written
for man and inspired of Holy Spirit.
Love it, hate, deny or ridicule it---FACT is we,
all of us live by it every day----our laws--way of
living--goverment--even in how we we write books
or make films-- As with all the stories in the Bible
from Joseph to Jesus-- they all have a begining
a middle and an end.--And who of us doesnt
like a happy ending------------------
Well mans happy end is when Jesus along
with his Holy Angels takes over rulership of the
earth,
so have a good nite every one of you little possums

colin F

I prefer the erich von daniken version of events :-)

Ian

Ahem.

I think the story bit "beginning, middle and end" was thought up by Aristotle - an ancient Greek.

And can one say that creation - if you can call this a story - has an end? And are we now in the "middle" ??

Just thinking aloud here.

Jill

We're about 14 billion years from the beginning,

and about 40 billion years from the end!

(The heat death of the Universe)

xxx mick

When you think about how the Victorians polluted the earth with all their facories, chimneys, fogs, smogs, etc. We have cleaned up the air hughly! It should be getting better not worse.

(Unless too many people are eating Baked Beans!!!!!)