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Can anyone help with looking up an 1851 census for me?

The names are Emma Guy born Gloucestershire abt 1832, and Francis Hamlett born Gloucestershire abt 1823.

I would also like the 1901 census for Francis if possible.

Thank you
Ian

This could be Emma:

Name: Emma Guy
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1973; Folio: 38; Page: 1; GSU roll: 87373-87374

I think her father's occ is Blacksmith.

Regards

Athena

Francis 1901

1901 England Census
about Francis Hamlett
Name: Francis Hamlett
Age: 76
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily A
Gender: Male
Where born: Prestbury, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Cheltenham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Cheltenham
Sub-registration district: Cheltenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members: Name Age
Emily A Hamlett 54
Francis Hamlett 76
Francis Hamlett 49




Andy

Thanks Andy
Any chance you could let me know the occupations and relationships etc too please.
Ian

This particular one is a man, sorry
Ceri

Athena
That one you sent for Emma, is that a census match? If so may i have the full transcription for them please.
Ian

Ok, think this might be Francis on the 1851 Census:

Name: Frances Hamlet
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Rebbecka
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England

Occ: Gardener

Address: 26 Duke Street, Cheltenham, Gloucs

Francis Retired Gardner
Emily Wife
Francis (single) son Gardener Domestic

Address 142 Fairview Road, Cheltenham.

Looks like a second marriage for Francis Snr to go by age of his son.

Andy

I dont know whether this was a second marriage i have so far only been able to locate the one to Emma Guy for him!
Ceri

Athena
Thanks for your help, may i have the full census transcription though please.
Ian

From Free BMD


Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)
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ARKELL Thomas Gloucester 6a 569
Freeman Ellen Gloucester 6a 569
>>Hamlett Francis Gloucester 6a 569
>>STAFFORD Emily Amelia Gloucester 6a 569

Andy

God he didnt hang around did he!! lol
Emma only died in 1880, Then he married Emily in 1883!! Then he died in 1904
Thanks Andy, by the way did the 1901 census say where Emily was born at all?
Thanks
Ian

Sorry for delay - had work to do!

The 1851 Census page is not very clear handwriting, but this is what I think it says:

39 Duke Street, Cheltenham

John Guy, 56, Blacksmith, b Berrington
Mary Guy, 61 (or 66?), wife, b ?? Gloucs
Emma, dau, 19, b Cheltenham
[Jane?] Edwards, serv, 15, gen servant b Charlton Gloucs.

Regards

Athena

Ha!! Just realised that she was living in the same street as Francis so that's obviously how they met!

Emily is shown as being born in Cheltenham in the 1901 census.

I have a relative who lost his wife in childbirth in Nov 1862 and then married his servant in April 1863!

Andy

Thanks Andy, i think we would get shot for doing something like that now days dont you!!
Or at least haunted!! I know if i died and my husband remarried only a couple of months later (especially to the maid) i would haunt him!! lol
Ceri

This looks like Emily in 1871. A servant at 2 High St, Cheltenham

1871 England Census
about Emily Stafford
Name: Emily Stafford
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Cheltenham
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Cheltenham
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Cheltenham
Sub-registration district: Cheltenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Dolphin 21
Emily Stafford 23
Catharine Wylliams 55
John Viner Wylliams 61


Andy

Just before I go to lunch - found this on the 1841 Census for you:

Thatched Cottage, Cheltenham

Rebecca Hamlett, 50, laundress, BIC
Harriett Hamlett, 25, laundress BIC
William Hamlett, 20, ag lab, BIC
Francis Hamlett, 15, ag lab, BIC
Frederic Hamlett 14, ag lab, BIC
Thomas Hamlett 5, BIC
Harriet Dosey (or Dasey?), 8

Not sure who Harriet is as the 1841 doesn't give relationships.

So, given there is a Thomas aged 5yrs we could assume that the father died some time in the 5 years prior to the 1841 census.

Right, off to feed my rumbly tummy now LOL

Regards, Athena

...and Emily in 1861 with parents

1861 England Census
about Emily Stafford
Name: Emily Stafford
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Priscilla
Gender: Female
Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Cheltenham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Cheltenham
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Cheltenham
Sub-registration district: Cheltenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 89
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Stafford 11
Eliza Stafford 22
Emily Stafford 14
Henry Stafford 18
Mary Jane Stafford 3
Priscilla Stafford 47
Robert Stafford 45
Robert Stafford 16


Andy

I have just been trying to find Emily on 1891 census but she is not on it with Francis, it is just him and his son!! Im confused! Why didnt they live together?
Ceri

Does anyone have the full 1851 census transcription (ie showing relationships etc) they can send me for

Emily Stafford born Gloucestershire abt 1847

Francis Hamlett born Gloucestershire abt 1823

Thanks
Ceri