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I have just received a death cert for an Alfred Gallimore died may 1900,living/and or died at ?? 3 william St ,Widnes. The informant being his brother W.Gallimore,living at what looks like 160 Albert Rd. Could any kind person please check the addresses and or W.Gallimore on the 1891/1901 and for Alfred on the earlier census please Regards Mike

Hi This them living at 3 William Street in 1891 Gallimore, Alfred ( Occ Chemical labourer ) 30 widnes, Lancashire Son Widnes Lancashire Gallimore, Ann 66 Eccleston, Lancashire Head Widnes Lancashire Gallimore, Elizabeth 33 widnes, Lancashire Daughter Widnes Lancashire Gallimore, Walter ( Occ Iron Turner ) 28 widnes, Lancashire Son Widnes Lancashire Source information:   RG12/3014 Registration district:   Prescot Sub registration district:   Farnworth ED, institution, or vessel:   20 Folio:   72 Page:   16

Walter is married in 1901 ( Wife named Harriett aged 44 born west Hallam Derbyshire ) Their address is Albert Hotel , 160 Albert Road Widnes. He has now gained 6 step children & a servant . He runs the Pub Albert Hotel : Harriet Gallimore 44 West Hallam, Derbyshire, England Wife Widnes Lancashire Walter Gallimore 38 Widnes, Lancashire, England Head Widnes Lancashire Mary A Hanrahan 18 Widnes, Lancashire, England Servant Widnes Lancashire Albert Hollingworth 10 Widnes, Lancashire, England Stepson Widnes Lancashire Charles H Hollingworth 18 Derby, Derbyshire, England Stepson Widnes Lancashire John W Hollingworth 16 Widnes, Lancashire, England Stepson Widnes Lancashire Mabel Hollingworth 12 Widnes, Lancashire, England Stepdaughter Widnes Lancashire Patience M Hollingworth 22 Chadson, Derbyshire, England Stepdaughter Widnes Lancashire Wilfred W Hollingworth 14 Widnes, Lancashire, England Stepson Widnes Lancashire Source information:   RG13/3513 Registration district:   Prescot Sub-registration district:   Widnes ED, institution, or vessel:   11 Folio:   154 Page:   13 Household schedule number:   69

There is also a William Gallimore in 1891 at 25 Milton Street Wiliam Head Widow Chemical labourer Alice dau 8 Frederick son 7 Willian son 4 All born Widnes Tricia

Thank you very much Debbie,still not sure if these are my relatives yet,trying to compile as much info as possible, to help me decide Regards Mike

Think these are probably the two brothers, Michael. Did it give a cause of death??

Thank you again Debbie,and thank you Tricia, i believe i've actually drank in the Albert Hotel,and i've a 140 mile drive to widnes tonight,might have another one. The only thing puzzling me is the fact that a now deceased relative reckons that they met Alfred Gallimore,who was their Grandfather,but they were not born untill about 1909,i really need to check other deaths around the Liverpool area after this date to eliminate that story Regards mike

1871 census for Alfred:- Match Quality Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Image Alfred Galliamore 11 Widnes, Lancashire, England Son Widnes Lancashire Ann Galliamore 47 Eccleston, Lancashire, England Wife Widnes Lancashire Elizabeth Galliamore 16 Widnes, Lancashire, England Daughter Widnes Lancashire John Galliamore 41 Rainhill, Lancashire, England Head Widnes Lancashire Walter Galliamore 8 Widnes, Lancashire, England Son Widnes Lancashire Living 3 Mill Lane Widnes. John the dad is also labourer at Chemical works. Can't find William at moment but he may have lied about age and nicked off somewhere!!!!! Tricia

Hi Tricia Cause of death given as Pneumonia Regards Mike

1881:- 3 Mill lane. Still no sign of William Alfred Gallimore abt 1860 Widnes, Lancashire, England Son Widnes Ann Gallimore abt 1825 Widnes, Lancashire, England Wife Widnes Elizabeth Gallimore abt 1855 Widnes, Lancashire, England Daughter Widnes John Gallimore abt 1831 Widnes, Lancashire, England Head Widnes Walter Gallimore abt 1863 Widnes, Lancashire, England Son Widnes No other Alfred's - must be your man. Tricia

Hi, Michael, Someone must be telling porkies!! Presumably Alfred married between 1891 and his death. Do you have his wife's name, age and birthplace. She should appear as a widow on 1901. I can't find Alfred on 1901. I did find the birth and death of an Alfred Gallimore registered Bolton in 1897. Might be theirs??? Tricia

Your very welcome. If these are your folk there is a birth for Alfred Gallimore on FREEbmd: Births Mar 1859 GALLIMORE  Alfred    Prescot  8B 44_ Interestingly there is a birth for another Alfred Gallimore some 50 odd years later in the Prescot district: Births Sep 1911 GALLIMORE  Alfred  JACKSON ( mothers maiden name )  Prescot  8b 1374 Hope this helps with some of your puzzle

Hi Tricia all i have is the death cert received today,i have his name on his daughters marriage cert when she married my g.grandfather in 1901. The story goes that he married possibly in ireland,he did apparently have children born there,Athlone and possibly Athenry,apparently died this country but i possibly need to look at other later deaths aswell Regards Mike

Michael Whats the daughters name? How old on her marriage cert? Living where at the time of her marriage in 1901? and what was the occupation of her father and his full name? The Alfred we've just been tracing is a SINGLE man . The above info could help track your Alfred in from 1901 - 1871 census. By tracing the daughter we should find her with her father ?

Thanks again Debbie He's proving to be a bit of a pain,can't get past first base with him ,still one day maybe,or then again maybe i already have him. Regards Mike

Hi Debbie Mary Gallimore is aged 20 when she married 9/11/1901 address 54 York st,Garston, Liverpool.Alfreds occupation on this is given as Sawsharpener. There appears to be another daugter ann age 13 in 1901 again living in Garston Mary at 11 Thomas st garston on the 1901 Ann at Canterbury St Garston on the 1901 Regards Mike

Hi, Deborah, Would you like to share the brick wall that I am currently bashing my head against???? We've just researched someone else's family tree. I don't think he was born in Widnes and is probably hiding in Ireland on all the Census Michael - make a detour to Surrey tonight and I'll give you a good whack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why didn't you tell us his profession you naughty chap!!!! Love you really, Tricia

I think this must be Mary in 1901 Elizabeth Barry 21 Ireland Wife Garston Lancashire Samuel Barry 23 Garston, Lancashire, England Head Garston Lancashire Mary Gallimore 20 Ireland Boarder Garston Lancashire 13 year old Ann is a servant at 13. Who is Mary age 11 on 1901 - is this name correct. Don't think we can do much more - sure he is in Ireland. What was his birthplace(Alfred, I mean)

Hi Michael Thanks for the extra information, however I've found no new info for you. However I think it's fair to say the Death cert you have received today is not the Alfred you are looking for. As the info we've found on the census 1901 - 1871 on the chap confirm he was single and never married. I couldn't find Mary & Ann on the 1891 census I'm afraid ( perhaps they were still in Ireland - sadly the 1891 Irish census was destroyed in a fire ) If you think Alfred came to England with his daughters perhaps you may have some luck looking for a death cert for him in the District of West Derby which covers the Garston area? Much happiness Debi

Hi Tricia Oh I dooooooooooooo love brick walls : ) Whats the problem? I've got a while b4 I leave to pick up kiddies : )