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G/day to you all, can anyone help me out again please. i need info on a policeman his name was George Rushby b1850, he married Elizabeth Marlow 18 Aug 1872 in the parish church Cobham, Surrey. on the certificate which is'nt a very good one it says he was a Police Constable but it does not say where he was born. So is there any way of finding out where he came from. He is not with Elizabeth and children in the 1881 to 1901 census, in 1901 Elizabeth is listed as being a widow. Hope someone can help. Thank you Tim in Oz

Hi Tim, There are two for the year 1850,of that name, George Rushby, Registered March , District,Louth-Lincolnshire. GRO Indexes,(for cert ordering)Volume 14=Page543, George Rushby, Registered,March, District,Gainsborough-Lincolnshire, GRO Indexes-Volume 14-Page 357, The name Rushby is very common in that area, Perhaps 1871 census may help, Have you tried going down the Police Archives direction? Kay.

The 1881 image shows a George RUSHBY, 30 a married Police Constable born Sturton, Lincolnshire at the home of Elizabeth PAINE a 65 years old widow. He is not with any other family and is shown as her grandson. They are living at 43 Petre Street, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield. Do you have George's marriage certificate, which hopefully would show his father's name? I couldn't identify George on the 1871 census.

1871 has this - he is a gunner in the Royal Artillery Name: George Rushby Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Fulstow, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish or Township: Portsea Ecclesiastical parish: Milton St James County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Source information: RG10/1148 Registration district: Portsea Island Sub-registration district: Landport ED, institution, or vessel: Royal Marine Artillery Barracks Folio: 72 Page: 30 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 1 GSU Number: 827789 Is his father's name on the marriage cert?

Christine That George looked the most likely out of the ones listed, I thought. I don't know Lincolnshire place names to know whether this 1871 George and the one I found in 1881 could be the same person.

Gwyneth Looking at map the 2 places are miles apart, so looks like it's back to the hunt again. I thought he might have joined the constabulary after leaving the military - there I go, jumping to conclusions again! UPDATE: Can't be him - on 1861 there are 2 George Rushby born 1850 in Furstow and Sturton

Just what I was thinking too! Who is the wife of the George in Sheffield, 1881, I wonder?

In 1891 his wife is Lucy, he's a private detective, living in Sheffield. No children. 1901, in Sheffield, still with Lucy. Now he's an Steel and Iron Works Detective

Did he leave/divorce Elizabeth I wonder? Are we talking about the right man? Will have to wait for Tim in Oz. to wake and see what he makes of all this.

Still can't see him in 1871 though

Nor me. In 1881 Elizabeth has a baby son, Thomas with her( was George the father though?) In 1891 she is shown as a widow., indexed RUSHBEY

Found her in 1901, widow, with son Thomas a house painter, still in Cobham, but agree that family is elusive in 1891.

Well done Gwyneth for finding Mrs R. 1861!!! for George (still no 1871) Sarah Needham abt 1788 Cammeringham, Lincolnshire, England Lodger Sturton Lincolnshire Ann Rushby abt 1826 Besthorpe, Nottinghamshire, England Mar Sturton Lincolnshire Ann Rushby abt 1861 Sturton, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Sturton Lincolnshire >>George Rushby abt 1850 Sturton, Lincolnshire, England Son Sturton Lincolnshire John Rushby abt 1848 Sturton, Lincolnshire, England Son Sturton Lincolnshire Richard Rushby abt 1855 Sturton, Lincolnshire, England Son Sturton Lincolnshire William Rushby abt 1820 Sturton, Lincolnshire, England Mar Sturton Lincolnshire *************************************************** Parents in 1871, George not there Albert Rushby abt 1869 Sturton, Lincolnshire, England Son Sturton Lincolnshire Ann Rushby abt 1826 Besthorpe, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Sturton Lincolnshire Ann Rushby abt 1861 Sturton, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Sturton Lincolnshire William Rushby abt 1820 Sturton, Lincolnshire, England Head Sturton Lincolnshire William Rushby abt 1867 Sturton, Lincolnshire, England Son Sturton Lincolnshire ***************************************************

G/day to you all, Sorry we did'nt get back to you earlier but with the 7 hour time difference we were late night shopping. On the copy of George Rushby b1850 marriage certificate it says his father was also George Rushby his occupation General Dealer. it's all very mysterious did he two wives at the same time. Kay you mentioned the police archives are they on line and can the public view them, do you know how to access them please. We a appreciate every one that is helping to locate him. A big thank you to you all. Tim in Oz

George is not with his brother John either 1871 England Census Match Quality Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace John Rushby abt 1848 Sturton, Lincolnshire, England Head Brightside Bierlow Yorkshire Mary Rushby abt 1839 Hexby, Lincolnshire, England Wife Brightside Bierlow Yorkshire Spencer Smith abt 1849 Stow, Lincolnshire, England Lodger Brightside Bierlow Yorkshire Tim Just seen that your George's father was also George - hmm, have we been chasing the wrong George?????

Right, with that vital piece of info, what about this one 1861 England Census Charles Rushby abt 1858 Fulstow, Lincolnshire, England Son Fulstow Lincolnshire Charlotte Rushby abt 1828 Fulstow, Lincolnshire, England Wife Fulstow Lincolnshire >>George Rushby abt 1826 Fulstow, Lincolnshire, England Head Fulstow Lincolnshire >>George Rushby abt 1850 Fulstow, Lincolnshire, England Son Fulstow Lincolnshire John Rushby abt 1852 Fulstow, Lincolnshire, England Son Fulstow Lincolnshire Mary J Rushby abt 1854 Fulstow, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Fulstow Lincolnshire which takes us back to George Rushby in the Royal Artillery in 1871

G/day Christine, Thank you for your help, we can't find George in the 1881 census either. Tim in Oz

Sorry, Tim, can't find him on 1881. Have tried just searching for George, with birth year and place. Only found up to 1871, but can't find death in Surrey(Epsom)/Lincoln (Louth)

G/day, Thank you all again for your assistance in trying to locate George Rusby b1850. A question for all good people is there anyway of accessing Military and Police records. Have a great day. Tim in Oz

G'Day Timothy! Re: police records. The National Archives, which has the Met Police records, says: 'Records of other police forces, except the Royal Irish Constabulary, are not public records. Those which survive are held either by the appropriate local record office or the force itself.' For info on the Royal Artillery, I suggest you try googling, but I doubt if the personal info will be online. nell