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Struggling to find on Census 1851, 1861 or 1871???
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Bacardi | Report | 13 Jan 2006 20:37 |
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Hiya sorry to be so long, got caught up on Ancestry again:-) I dont think Elizabeth L James is my girl, as I can find her on the 1881 census too:-( I can find an Elizabeth James and an Elizabeth L James on FreeBMD, so I'm thinking that the one without the L might be mine, but where is she on the census'???? Bev X |
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Unknown | Report | 13 Jan 2006 20:08 |
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Edmund must be a 'pet' name for him. Good look Bev ........ Elaine ;-) |
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Nikki | Report | 13 Jan 2006 20:05 |
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If we're going with this Elizabeth Lowthian James thing...... ELIZABETH LOWTHIAN JAMES Female Christening: 01 JAN 1845 Saint Andrew, Penrith, Cumberland, England Parents: Father: JOHN JAMES Family Mother: ELIZABETH |
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Unknown | Report | 13 Jan 2006 20:02 |
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this is getting a little desperate I know: EDMUND JAMES Male Family Event(s): Birth: Marriages: Spouse: BETSY PUGMIRE Family Marriage: 10 MAY 1832 Edenhall, Cumberland, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ EDMUND JAMES Male Family Event(s): Marriages: Spouse: ELIZABETH DAVISON Family Marriage: 27 MAY 1834 Wetheral, Cumberland, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Left them BOTH for future reference ! (Gawd ... it IS Cumberland isn't it !!!...I've spent so long looking I'm forgetting !) Oooh ! so the 1851 is correct then ...... with the SISTER being Frances LOWTHIAN ! |
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Cheryl | Report | 13 Jan 2006 20:01 |
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The 1851 census (Derbyshire) the mother is a widow and Elizabeth's middle name is Lowthian, can send image if needed. It wasn't always necessary to say the father was deceased on the marriage certificate. Cheryl |
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Nikki | Report | 13 Jan 2006 19:49 |
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Well they say great minds think alike!!! lol |
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Unknown | Report | 13 Jan 2006 19:48 |
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Oh yes ... so it is Nikki .....LOL !!!!!!!!!!! |
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Nikki | Report | 13 Jan 2006 19:45 |
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That's the one I posted earlier DD but in 1861 Dad is there too by the name of John, but like I said previously maybe his full name was Edmund John James? |
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Unknown | Report | 13 Jan 2006 19:42 |
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and does she have a middle initial/name ? 1851 ... wondering if this is her with Mum ... Elizabeth James abt 1803 Penrith, Cumberland, England Wife Penrith Cumberland Elizabeth L James abt 1845 Penrith, Cumberland, England Daughter Penrith Cumberland William Hetherington abt 1833 London, England Apprentice Penrith Cumberland Frances Lowthian abt 1792 Penrith, Cumberland, England Servant Penrith Cumberland Hannah Scott abt 1824 Blackhall, Cumberland, England Servant Penrith Cumberland Frances Lowthian is actually SISTER not servant. William is NOT head of this household ...... I'll delete him ! |
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Nikki | Report | 13 Jan 2006 19:40 |
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I guess it could be that Edmund was his correct name yet he was known by a middle name perhaps? |
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Suzanne | Report | 13 Jan 2006 19:37 |
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Closest I got on 1871: Eleanor James abt 1832 Penrith, Cumberland, England Daughter Penrith Cumberland Jane Elizabeth James abt 1841 Penrith, Cumberland, England Daughter Penrith Cumberland John James abt 1845 Penrith, Cumberland, England Son Penrith Cumberland Joseph James abt 1828 Penrith, Cumberland, England Son Penrith Cumberland Robert James abt 1801 Bolton, Westmorland, England Head Penrith Cumberland Father Robert though! Suzanne |
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Bacardi | Report | 13 Jan 2006 19:28 |
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FC No - there's no occupation on the marriage cert (or the 1881 census come to that) On the 1891 and 1901 census' though she has put down Dressmaker (at home) as her occupation. Bev X |
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Fiona | Report | 13 Jan 2006 19:25 |
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Does Elizabeth have an occ on her marriage certificate? |
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Bacardi | Report | 13 Jan 2006 19:10 |
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Ok Guys (and Gals lol) Elizabeth James married James Harvey on 27 Feb 1881. As stated above on the certificate, she gives her age as 37 and her father as Edmund James, a farmer. She reckons that she is a spinster nad her address is given as Sunnyside, Blundell Sands. On the 1881 census I can find her with her husband as follows:- Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability James HARVEY Head M Male 32 Ireland Sailor Elizabeth HARVEY Wife M Female 38 Penrith, Cumberland, England I know I have the right couple as the address is the same, 187 Grafton Street, Toxteth Park for the groom and the 1881Census. Hoping you can help:-) Bev X ps. dont know if will help but the witnesses were a John Hawkin and Bessey Craig. |
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Nikki | Report | 13 Jan 2006 19:07 |
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oh well, was worth a try I guess! We really need the 1881 entry to get going don't we!? |
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Fiona | Report | 13 Jan 2006 19:05 |
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in 1861 Elizabeth born 1803 Penrith is married to a John James so likely not that one |
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Nikki | Report | 13 Jan 2006 18:42 |
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poss 1851: William Brower abt 1827 Raughton Head, Cumberland, England Apprentice Penrith Cumberland William Hetherington abt 1833 London, England Apprentice Penrith Cumberland Elizabeth James abt 1803 Penrith, Cumberland, England Wife Penrith Cumberland Elizabeth L James abt 1845 Penrith, Cumberland, England Daughter Penrith Cumberland Frances Lowthian abt 1792 Penrith, Cumberland, England Servant Penrith Cumberland Hannah Scott abt 1824 Blackhall, Cumberland, England Servant Penrith Cumberland |
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Jess Bow Bag | Report | 13 Jan 2006 18:37 |
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37 is quite old, was she deff a spinster when she married. |
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Esta | Report | 13 Jan 2006 18:36 |
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what are the '81 details please ? |
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Nikki | Report | 13 Jan 2006 18:34 |
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Bev can you post the 1881 entry you have to make searching esaier? |
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