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Hi Lewella Thank you very much for that ,it does appear then to be the same william because he states in the 1901 that he was born Durham Thank you Regards Mike

That's what I read it as Mike Lewella

Hi Lewella Thank you for the 1891 census image Looking at Janes ( THE WIFE ) and her place of birth does this appear to say DURHAM SHORTLEY Regards Mike

Lewella, your a star ,don't know if this will be william though as on the 1901 it says he was born Durham, still i find the more pieces i pick up the bigger and more complete the Jigsaw becomes Regards Mike

No problem Mike. Do you want the 1891 image as well? Lewella

Lewella Thank you once again for that,and thank you for the 1901 Image Regards Mike

Not necessarily. The Census was taken on 31 March 1901. So if Doris's birthday wasn't until say 30 April she was still only 1 for the purpose of the census, but could well have been about to turn 2. Regards, Lewella

Lewella would this mean that Forence and Doris were twins ,i known that in future generations there are twins in the family. Regards Mike

Mike, see my message above. Census image clearly states Florence 9 months not 9 years. Contact me direct and I'll clearly email you the image. Regards Lewella

Hi Deb are you still about ....Are the ages of Florence and her mother correct as it appears that she had her daughter when she was 12 ?? Regards Mike

Hi Alice, Thank you very much for that ,you are correct it is the right Alice Regards Mike

Hi lewella Thank you very much for the look ups i will need to research a bit more with the information that you have supplied Regards Mike

1901 mistake Mike. Daughter Florence is, in fact, 9 months, not 9 years as stated. Regards Lewella

Thanks debs, that looks as though it could be them,i will do some more research when i can get to the Library. I've been on another site most of the week and you are are better using using dots as the message area is short and quite wide,thought with having so many names i'd give it a go on here,couldn't believe what it did Thanks again Debs Regards Mike

1891: Father Walter (46) Born in Scotland. Father is a boiler maker. Mother Jane (44). Born Shortley (?) Address: 27 Cow (?) Lane, Poplar, London Children: Hugh Margaret William Jane Joseph Susan David Robert

there is an Alice Beatrice born Poplar 1903 Oct/nov/dec qtr 1c 808 Could that be your Alice? ( anyone know her second name?)

Mike Could this be him in 1891? Turner, William Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Relation: Son Gender: Male Where Born: Millwall, London Birth Country: England Civil parish: Poplar Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: London City County/Island: London Lewella

MIKE WHAT ABOUT THIS?? 1901 DORIS TURNER abt 1900 Millwall, London, England Daughter Poplar London FLORENCE TURNER abt 1880 Lowestoft, Suffolk, England Wife Poplar London FLOREnCE TURNER abt 1892 Millwall, London, England Daughter Poplar London WILLIAM TURNER abt 1875 Durham, England Head Poplar London RIVETTER IRON WORKS address west ferry rd, poplar, london REGARDS DEBS

Change your dots for Comma's , it messes it all up and makes it SSooooo hard to read!

I Think you need to rewrite it underneath then edit top by putting see below as I think you have streached thread too much or it does to me Jeanette