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Help needed on 1851 census for evasive Brush Maker

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Polly

Polly Report 10 Jan 2007 13:24

Please can some one help me find Martin Lodge on the 1851 census. He would have been born abt 1820 or earlier as his son was 20 in 1862 at time of marriage. I do not know were he lived. On his sons Marriage certificate in 1862 he was deceased, and a Brush Maker. Do not know much about son William Lodge either only he was a soldier at Preston Lancs. Who married Mary Cragg at Preston. I know about her and family, but cannot find anything on William or Martin Lodge. Thanks for any help. Polly

Vera

Vera Report 10 Jan 2007 13:54

Hi, 1861 census I wonder if this is him... for reference.. Name: Wm P Lodge Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Private Gender: Male Where born: Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Portsmouth Town: Portsmouth County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Portsea Island Sub-registration district: Portsmouth Town ED, institution, or vessel: Second Battalion 19th Regiment Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age 20 Will check on the earlier census' Regards Vera

Polly

Polly Report 10 Jan 2007 14:09

hi Sorry I have to nip out, will be back 15 mins. Polly

Polly

Polly Report 10 Jan 2007 14:09

Hi Vera William was 20 yrs old on marriage certificate and a soldier at Fulwood Barracks Preston, he was in the 13th Hussairs if this is any help. Polly

Vera

Vera Report 10 Jan 2007 14:12

Hi Polly, Thanks for the info on regiment. He certainly is elusive....so far had no luck on the 1851 no even with his father Martin !!!!! Regards Vera

June

June Report 10 Jan 2007 14:18

Deaths Mar 1855 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lodge Martin Leeds 9b 223 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Sep 1860 (93%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lodge Martin Richmond S 2a 125 only 2 deaths from 1842/1862 June x

June

June Report 10 Jan 2007 14:24

Do you have any census with William + Mary ? June x

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 Jan 2007 14:32

Mary's on the 1881 census, living with her 2 sons, Martin & John Wm. and her mother, Sarah Cragg in Preston, Lancashire. Says she's married but husband is not with her. Margaret

Vera

Vera Report 10 Jan 2007 14:33

Hi Have checked on the 1871 unless it has been mis-transcribed no luck. It would help to have his birthplace. Sorry I have got to go out for the rest of the afternoon. Will check the thread when I get back.....to see what happens :-) Regards Vera

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 Jan 2007 14:48

On the 1871 census the 2 sons of William & Mary are living with relatives. Martin is with his Cragg grandparents in Preston and John William is a nephew in the household of Hugh & Margaret Ross also in Preston.

Polly

Polly Report 10 Jan 2007 14:55

Hi Thanks June, I have seen the death at leeds, but I do not know were the Lodges came from, also cannot find census with William and Mary on, Mary lived different places without him in Preston. Was told they were parted. Trying to find the Lodges side, thinking if I find Martin Lodge I could go on from there. Polly

♥Athena

♥Athena Report 10 Jan 2007 14:58

On the IGI there is a baptism for a MARTIN LODGE 26 APR 1821 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Father: John Mother: Sarah He's the only Martin Lodge born in the 1820s - but various others are listed for other, much later or much earlier years.

Polly

Polly Report 10 Jan 2007 15:02

Margaret, thanks for that, I do have the Cragg info, its the Lodges I cannot find, with William being a soldier I suppose he could be anywere, but he would have been a small boy on the 1851. Any ways much appreciated for your time. Polly

Polly

Polly Report 10 Jan 2007 15:06

Thanks Athena will look at that on the IGI, Yorkshire has come up a few times too. Polly

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Jan 2007 15:13

Have you seen this one? WILLIAM JAMES LODGE Male Birth: Christening: 18 FEB 1844 Hounslow, London, England Parents: Father: MARTIN LODGE Mother: ELLEN Reg

Polly

Polly Report 10 Jan 2007 15:19

Hi Reg, no I had not seen that, will have to think about that one too, although I was thinking Yorkshire. Do you know if Honslow was an Army base? Polly

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Jan 2007 15:21

Not sure of the relevance of Hounslow being an Army base.............I thought Martin was a brush maker........... Reg

♥Athena

♥Athena Report 10 Jan 2007 15:23

Ah, well that's interesting, Reggie, because I found this marriage: Martin Lodge 1841 Ipswich Suffolk to either a Hannah, Ellen or Sarah. So... could it have been Martin and Ellen?

Polly

Polly Report 10 Jan 2007 15:31

Hi Reg, yes Martin was a brush maker as stated on the marriage certificate, but was wondering if he had been in the army himself before he became a brush maker. Polly

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Jan 2007 15:43

1841 has this one been ruled out? Name: Marin Lodge (Martin on image) Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Household: View other family members Gender: Male Civil parish: St Mary Northgate Hundred: Canterbury City and Borough County/Island: Kent Country: England Source information: HO107/486/17 Registration district: Canterbury Sub-registration district: Canterbury ED, institution, or vessel: Barracks and Hospitals Folio: 7 Page: 8 (click to see others on page) Line number: 3 GSU Number: 306878 Maureen