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Hi Tracy thanks for the info, I will keep it along with the other information , thanks to all who have taken time to reply. Polly

Hi there, sorry to but in but was interested in reading your query. The reason I replied is because I live right opposite the Canterbury Barracks. Now I am not sure about how long the barracks have been in the same place and there are two depots but if they have it is interesting to note that the parish of Northgate is adjacent to both the barracks. Don't know if that is of any use to you. Regards

Thanks very much Jim for that info. Polly

It is an artillary barracks he is a private born out of county. 1841 England Census about Marin Lodge Name: Marin Lodge ( martin on image) Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Household: View other family members Gender: Male Civil parish: St Mary Northgate Hundred: Canterbury City and Borough County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Occupation: View image Source information: HO107/486/17 Registration district: Canterbury Sub-registration district: Canterbury ED, institution, or vessel: Barracks

Hi Maureen, thanks for the info, I will save this to ponder over as well as the others. Did it say what Martin's job was? Thanks for your time. Much appreciated. Polly

1841 has this one been ruled out? Name: Marin Lodge (Martin on image) Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Household: View other family members Gender: Male Civil parish: St Mary Northgate Hundred: Canterbury City and Borough County/Island: Kent Country: England Source information: HO107/486/17 Registration district: Canterbury Sub-registration district: Canterbury ED, institution, or vessel: Barracks and Hospitals Folio: 7 Page: 8 (click to see others on page) Line number: 3 GSU Number: 306878 Maureen

Hi Reg, yes Martin was a brush maker as stated on the marriage certificate, but was wondering if he had been in the army himself before he became a brush maker. Polly

Ah, well that's interesting, Reggie, because I found this marriage: Martin Lodge 1841 Ipswich Suffolk to either a Hannah, Ellen or Sarah. So... could it have been Martin and Ellen?

Not sure of the relevance of Hounslow being an Army base.............I thought Martin was a brush maker........... Reg

Hi Reg, no I had not seen that, will have to think about that one too, although I was thinking Yorkshire. Do you know if Honslow was an Army base? Polly

Have you seen this one? WILLIAM JAMES LODGE Male Birth: Christening: 18 FEB 1844 Hounslow, London, England Parents: Father: MARTIN LODGE Mother: ELLEN Reg

Thanks Athena will look at that on the IGI, Yorkshire has come up a few times too. Polly

Margaret, thanks for that, I do have the Cragg info, its the Lodges I cannot find, with William being a soldier I suppose he could be anywere, but he would have been a small boy on the 1851. Any ways much appreciated for your time. Polly

On the IGI there is a baptism for a MARTIN LODGE 26 APR 1821 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Father: John Mother: Sarah He's the only Martin Lodge born in the 1820s - but various others are listed for other, much later or much earlier years.

Hi Thanks June, I have seen the death at leeds, but I do not know were the Lodges came from, also cannot find census with William and Mary on, Mary lived different places without him in Preston. Was told they were parted. Trying to find the Lodges side, thinking if I find Martin Lodge I could go on from there. Polly

On the 1871 census the 2 sons of William & Mary are living with relatives. Martin is with his Cragg grandparents in Preston and John William is a nephew in the household of Hugh & Margaret Ross also in Preston.

Hi Have checked on the 1871 unless it has been mis-transcribed no luck. It would help to have his birthplace. Sorry I have got to go out for the rest of the afternoon. Will check the thread when I get back.....to see what happens :-) Regards Vera

Mary's on the 1881 census, living with her 2 sons, Martin & John Wm. and her mother, Sarah Cragg in Preston, Lancashire. Says she's married but husband is not with her. Margaret

Do you have any census with William + Mary ? June x

Deaths Mar 1855 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lodge Martin Leeds 9b 223 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Sep 1860 (93%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lodge Martin Richmond S 2a 125 only 2 deaths from 1842/1862 June x