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alviegal thanks for that marriage look up
could you check this marriage
Marriages Dec 1880 (>99%) FREEMAN William Bethnal Green 1c 482 GASTER Sarah Bethnal Green 1c 482 Lewis George Bethnal Green 1c 482 Wrighton Mary Ann Bethnal Green 1c 482 XXXX
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Easy to check which of the parties married each other by looking for births on the GRO website, which has MMN from 1837
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
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Hi again You very kindly found me the parents of Wiliam Freeman, namely Frederick Freeman and Eliza Freeman nee Handley. William was born 9th July 1853. I have found his parents in 1861 and 1871 but unable to find them on later censuses or death records, Might you be able to help me with this also please? Apologies if I am asking too much x
William Freeman in the 1861 England Census
Name William Freeman Gender Male Age 7 Relation Son Estimated Birth Year 1854 Father's Name Frederick Freeman Where born Stafford, Staffordshire, England Civil parish Stafford St Mary Ecclesiastical parish Christchurch Town Stafford County/Island Staffordshire Country England Registration District Stafford Sub-registration district Stafford ED, institution, or vessel 21 Neighbors Household schedule number 166 Piece 1907 Folio 129 Page number 28 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Frederick Freeman 28 Head John Freeman 10 Son William Freeman 7 Son Mary A Freeman 5 Daughter Susan Freeman 2 Daughter
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William Freeman
in the 1871 England Census
Name William Freeman Age 18 Estimated Birth Year 1853 Relation Son Gender Male Where born Staffordshire England Civil parish St Andrew Ecclesiastical parish St Andrew County/Island Northamptonshire Country England Registration District Northampton Sub-registration district St Giles ED, institution, or vessel 28 Household schedule number 189 Piece 1485 Folio 66 Page number 36 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Fredric Freeman 38 Head Eliza Freeman 40 Wife John Freeman 20 Son William Freeman 18 Son Charles Freeman 8 Son James E Freeman 1 Son Mary ann Freeman 15 Daughter Elizabeth Freeman 13 Daughter Susan Freeman 12 Daughter Eliza Freeman 10 Daughter
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Just putting this up with places of birth to help find.
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census St George Street, St Andrew Priory, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Frederic Freeman Head - Male 38 1833 Sher maker Higham Ferrers, Northamptonshire, England Eliza Freeman Wife - Female 40 1831 - Staffordshire, England John Freeman Son - Male 20 1851 Sher maker Staffordshire, England William Freeman Son - Male 18 1853 Sher maker Staffordshire, England Charles Freeman Son - Male 8 1863 Scholar Northamptonshire, England James E Freeman Son - Male 1 1870 - Northamptonshire, England Mary Ann Freeman Daughter - Female 15 1856 Boet machinist Staffordshire, England Elizabeth Freeman Daughter - Female 13 1858 Domestic servant Staffordshire, England Susan Freeman Daughter - Female 12 1859 Scholler Staffordshire, England Eliza Freeman Daughter - Female 10 1861 Scholler Staffordshire, England
so is this some of the family in 1881 - original does say Eliza married, but can sometimes be a mistake
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census 3, St Mary Place, Northampton All Saints, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Eliza Freeman Head Married Female 49 1832 - Stafford, Staffordshire, England John Freeman Son Single Male 30 1851 Shoe rivitter Stafford, Staffordshire, England George Freeman Son Single Male 13 1868 Errand boy Northampton, Northamptonshire, England Alice Freeman Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Scholar Northampton, Northamptonshire, England W Brunsden Boarder Married Male 24 1857 Proffesionial stage (actor) Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Clara Brunsden Boarder Married Female 18 1863 Proffesionial stage (actor) Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Ellen Brunsden Boarder Single Female 0 1881 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
FREEMAN, GEORGE HANDLEY GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in NORTHAMPTON Volume 03B Page 81
though not on the 1871 census with family
and FREEMAN, ALICE HANDLEY GRO Reference: 1872 M Quarter in NORTHAMPTON UNION Volume 03B Page 71
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A tree on Ancestry claims this is Frederick's death:
Deaths Dec 1897 (>99%) Freeman Frederick 65 Brixworth 3b 66
Frederick Freeman in the Northamptonshire, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1912 Name Frederick Freeman Death Age 65 Birth Year abt 1832 [abt 1832] Burial Date 6 Nov 1897 Burial Place Moulton Civil Parish, Northamptonshire, England Parish as it Appears Moulton Register Type Parish Registers
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The tree seems well researched, with lots of documentary proof.
However, it doesn't give a date of death for Eliza.
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Eliza in 1861 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census 17, Compton Street, Priory of St Andrew, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
Household members (5 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Hillier Head Married Male 23 1838 Shoemaker Towcester, Northamptonshire, England Susan Hillier Wife Married Female 24 1837 Shoe closer Higham Ferrers, Northamptonshire, England Eliza Freeman Visitor Married Female 30 1831 Binder Stafford, Staffordshire, England Elizabeth Freeman Visitor - Female 4 1857 - Stafford, Staffordshire, England Eliza Freeman Visitor - Female 0 1861 - Stafford, Staffordshire, England
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Possible 1911?
1911 Census For England & Wales 41 Melbourne St Northampton, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
Household members (6 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Robert Jesse Carvell Head Married Male 27 1884 Groom Northamptonshire Northampton Thirza Carvell Wife Married Female 38 1873 - Croxton Kenial Leicester S James Robert Carvell Son - Male 6 1905 - Northamptonshire Northampton Earnest Matthew Carvell Son - Male 4 1907 - Northamptonshire Northampton Thomas Noel Carvell Son - Male 1 1910 - Northamptonshire Northampton Eliza Freeman Boarder Widow Female 80 1831 - Staffordshire Stafford
and 1901?
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 30, Poole Street, Northampton Priory of St Andrew, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
Household members (6 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Waters Head Married Male 36 1865 Engine driver in shoe factory Leicestershire, England Alice Waters Wife Married Female 30 1871 - Northamptonshire, England Nelly Waters Daughter - Female 10 1891 - Northamptonshire, England Arthur Waters Son - Male 8 1893 - Northamptonshire, England Florence Waters Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Northamptonshire, England Eliza Freeman Mother-in-law Widow Female 71 1830 - Not Known
Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%) >>FREEMAN Alice Northampton 3b 87 Scan available - click to view MOORE Louisa Northampton 3b 87 Scan available - click to view Robinson Joseph Northampton 3b 87 Scan available - click to view >>WATERS John Northampton 3b 87
?? England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
First name(s) Eliza County Northamptonshire Last name Freeman Volume 3B Sex Female Page 54 Birth year 1831 Country England Age 88 Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Death quarter 2 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Death year 1919 Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials District Northampton Collections from Great Britain, England
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