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Possible 1911?

1911 Census For England & Wales
41 Melbourne St Northampton, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England

Household members (6 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Jesse Carvell Head
Married Male 27 1884 Groom Northamptonshire Northampton
Thirza Carvell Wife
Married Female 38 1873 - Croxton Kenial Leicester S
James Robert Carvell Son
- Male 6 1905 - Northamptonshire Northampton
Earnest Matthew Carvell Son
- Male 4 1907 - Northamptonshire Northampton
Thomas Noel Carvell Son
- Male 1 1910 - Northamptonshire Northampton
Eliza Freeman Boarder
Widow Female 80 1831 - Staffordshire Stafford


and 1901?

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
30, Poole Street, Northampton Priory of St Andrew, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England

Household members (6 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Waters Head
Married Male 36 1865 Engine driver in shoe factory Leicestershire, England
Alice Waters Wife
Married Female 30 1871 - Northamptonshire, England
Nelly Waters Daughter
- Female 10 1891 - Northamptonshire, England
Arthur Waters Son
- Male 8 1893 - Northamptonshire, England
Florence Waters Daughter
- Female 4 1897 - Northamptonshire, England
Eliza Freeman Mother-in-law
Widow Female 71 1830 - Not Known


Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%)
>>FREEMAN Alice Northampton 3b 87 Scan available - click to view
MOORE Louisa Northampton 3b 87 Scan available - click to view
Robinson Joseph Northampton 3b 87 Scan available - click to view
>>WATERS John Northampton 3b 87



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England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Northampton, Northamptonshire, England

First name(s) Eliza
County Northamptonshire
Last name Freeman
Volume 3B
Sex Female
Page 54
Birth year 1831
Country England
Age 88
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Death quarter 2
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death year 1919
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
District Northampton
Collections from Great Britain, England

Eliza in 1861
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
17, Compton Street, Priory of St Andrew, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England

Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Hillier Head
Married Male 23 1838 Shoemaker Towcester, Northamptonshire, England
Susan Hillier Wife
Married Female 24 1837 Shoe closer Higham Ferrers, Northamptonshire, England
Eliza Freeman Visitor
Married Female 30 1831 Binder Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Elizabeth Freeman Visitor
- Female 4 1857 - Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Eliza Freeman Visitor
- Female 0 1861 - Stafford, Staffordshire, England

The tree seems well researched, with lots of documentary proof.

However, it doesn't give a date of death for Eliza.

A tree on Ancestry claims this is Frederick's death:

Deaths Dec 1897 (>99%)
Freeman Frederick 65 Brixworth 3b 66


Frederick Freeman
in the Northamptonshire, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1912
Name Frederick Freeman
Death Age 65
Birth Year abt 1832 [abt 1832]
Burial Date 6 Nov 1897
Burial Place Moulton Civil Parish, Northamptonshire, England
Parish as it Appears Moulton
Register Type Parish Registers

Just putting this up with places of birth to help find.

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
St George Street, St Andrew Priory, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Frederic Freeman Head - Male 38 1833 Sher maker Higham Ferrers, Northamptonshire, England
Eliza Freeman Wife - Female 40 1831 - Staffordshire, England
John Freeman Son - Male 20 1851 Sher maker Staffordshire, England
William Freeman Son - Male 18 1853 Sher maker Staffordshire, England
Charles Freeman Son - Male 8 1863 Scholar Northamptonshire, England
James E Freeman Son - Male 1 1870 - Northamptonshire, England
Mary Ann Freeman Daughter - Female 15 1856 Boet machinist Staffordshire, England
Elizabeth Freeman Daughter - Female 13 1858 Domestic servant Staffordshire, England
Susan Freeman Daughter - Female 12 1859 Scholler Staffordshire, England
Eliza Freeman Daughter - Female 10 1861 Scholler Staffordshire, England


so is this some of the family in 1881 - original does say Eliza married, but can sometimes be a mistake

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
3, St Mary Place, Northampton All Saints, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Eliza Freeman Head Married Female 49 1832 - Stafford, Staffordshire, England
John Freeman Son Single Male 30 1851 Shoe rivitter Stafford, Staffordshire, England
George Freeman Son Single Male 13 1868 Errand boy Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
Alice Freeman Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Scholar Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
W Brunsden Boarder Married Male 24 1857 Proffesionial stage (actor) Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Clara Brunsden Boarder Married Female 18 1863 Proffesionial stage (actor) Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Ellen Brunsden Boarder Single Female 0 1881 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:

FREEMAN, GEORGE HANDLEY
GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in NORTHAMPTON Volume 03B Page 81

though not on the 1871 census with family

and
FREEMAN, ALICE HANDLEY
GRO Reference: 1872 M Quarter in NORTHAMPTON UNION Volume 03B Page 71

William Freeman

in the 1871 England Census

Name William Freeman
Age 18
Estimated Birth Year 1853
Relation Son
Gender Male
Where born Staffordshire England
Civil parish St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish St Andrew
County/Island Northamptonshire
Country England
Registration District Northampton
Sub-registration district St Giles
ED, institution, or vessel 28
Household schedule number 189
Piece 1485
Folio 66
Page number 36
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Fredric Freeman 38 Head
Eliza Freeman 40 Wife
John Freeman 20 Son
William Freeman 18 Son
Charles Freeman 8 Son
James E Freeman 1 Son
Mary ann Freeman 15 Daughter
Elizabeth Freeman 13 Daughter
Susan Freeman 12 Daughter
Eliza Freeman 10 Daughter

Hi again
You very kindly found me the parents of Wiliam Freeman, namely Frederick Freeman and Eliza Freeman nee Handley. William was born 9th July 1853. I have found his parents in 1861 and 1871 but unable to find them on later censuses or death records, Might you be able to help me with this also please? Apologies if I am asking too much x

William Freeman
in the 1861 England Census

Name William Freeman
Gender Male
Age 7
Relation Son
Estimated Birth Year 1854
Father's Name Frederick Freeman
Where born Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish Stafford St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish Christchurch
Town Stafford
County/Island Staffordshire
Country England
Registration District Stafford
Sub-registration district Stafford
ED, institution, or vessel 21
Neighbors
Household schedule number 166
Piece 1907
Folio 129
Page number 28
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Frederick Freeman 28 Head
John Freeman 10 Son
William Freeman 7 Son
Mary A Freeman 5 Daughter
Susan Freeman 2 Daughter

Thank you everyone :-D

Easy to check which of the parties married each other by looking for births on the GRO website, which has MMN from 1837

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

just going on his childrens names

William Freeman
Baptism Date 27 Jul 1853
Baptism Place Stafford, St Mary, Staffordshire, England
Religion Anglican
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Father
Frederick Freeman
Mother
Eliza Freeman
Page number 58


Name Frederick Freeman
Gender Male
Age 20
Birth Date 1832
Marriage Date 1852
Marriage Place Stafford, Stafford, England
Father
William Freeman
Spouse
Eliza Handley
FHL Film Number 1040879
Reference ID 2:39XBRT4

Abby, I looked at that marriage but that Mary Jane Whiting was born 1854 Charney, Bucks.

FIDDES, PHILIP EDGAR WHITING
GRO Reference: 1879 J Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 417

1891 with 4 sons.

Philip J Fiddes Head
Married Male 36 1855 Turf commission agent London, Middlesex, England
Mary Fiddes Wife
Married Female 37 1854 Dressmaker Berkshire, England
Philip Fiddes Son
- Male 12 1879 Scholar London, Middlesex, England

Here is that 1921 found by Maddie with details of the family he is living with. It does appear to be him.

1921 Census Of England & Wales
13, Dannett Street, Leicester, Leicestershire, England

Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
Charles Ann Hart Head
Male 1857 63 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Carter Own Account
Harry Hart Son
Male 1894 26 Leicestershire, England Farm Labourer General Labourer
Ellen Hart Daughter
Female 1898 22 Leicester, Leicestershire, England House Duties Private
James Hart Son
Male 1904 17 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Boiler Coverer General Labourer
>>William Freeman Visitor
Male 1852 68 Stafford, Staffordshire, England Boot Trade Foreman P Wapp


and still at the same address in 1911 with 5 children.

Charles Amos Hart Head
Married Male 53 1858 Hawker fish Leicester Leicestershire
Ellen Hart Wife
Married Female 51 1860 Assisting in business Leicester Leicestershire

"Cordwinder" will be cordwainer, which is a shoemaker.

ADDED:
In fact, now that I've looked at the image, it definitely says "cordwainer".

george is a shoe maker on all records except mary janes bapt where he is a cordwinder

Name Mary Ann Whiting
Age 53
Estimated Birth Year abt 1834 [abt 1834]
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Death Registration Place Northampton, Northamptonshire, United Kingdom
Death Date Jun 1887
Inferred Death Place Northamptonshire, United Kingdom
Volume 3b
Page 31

1861 for that mary jane

George Whiting Head
- Male 39 1832 Shoemaker Brayfield on the Green, Northamptonshire, England
Mary A Whiting Wife
- Female 37 1834 - Hackleton, Northamptonshire, England
Mary J Whiting Daughter
- Female 9 1862 Scholar Little Houghton, Northamptonshire, England
Lucy E Whiting Daughter
- Female 7 1864 Scholar Little Houghton, Northamptonshire, England
Frederick W Whiting Son
- Male 5 1866 Scholar Northamptonshire, England
Harry Whiting Son
- Male 2 1869 - Northamptonshire, England
William S Whiting Son
- Male 0 1871 - Northamptonshire, England
Catherine Clarke Mother-in-law
- Female 63 1808 Parish relief Hickley Lane, Buckinghamshire, England

in 1871 he is a shoe maker

Mary jane not with her parents in 1881

Name George Whiting
Gender Male
Marriage Age 21
Event Type Marriage
Birth Year abt 1831 [abt 1831]
Marriage Date 20 May 1852
Marriage Place Piddington, Northamptonshire, England
Parish as it Appears Piddington
Register Type Parish Registers
Father
George Whiting
Spouse
Mary Ann Clarke

George Whiting
Age 58
Estimated Birth Year abt 1831 [abt 1831]
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Death Registration Place Northampton, Northamptonshire, United Kingdom
Death Date Mar 1889
Inferred Death Place Northamptonshire, United Kingdom
Volume 3b
Page 33

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Marriages Sep 1878 (>99%)
ANDERSON Sophia Hackney 1b 874

FIDDES Philip John Hackney 1b 874

SHORT William Hackney 1b 874

WHITING Mary Jane Hackney 1b 874

????

Baptism entry
While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data
Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County Northamptonshire
Place Little Houghton
Church name (Links to more information) St Mary the Virgin
Register type (Links to more information) /freereg_contents/540a36f6eca9ebd28e9ab1a0/register?locale=en
Register entry number 31
Baptism date 13 Oct 1861
Person forename Mary Jane
Person sex ?
Father forename George
Mother forename Mary Anne
Father surname WHITING
Person abode Little Houghton
Father occupation cordwainer
Transcribed by Ilona Bricknell
Credit Marilyn Ponting
File line number 308

Thank you very much.