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Member Since: July 2003 Posts: 34 Send Message	Angela	Report	10 Mar 2026 15:59
Member Since: July 2003 Posts: 34 Send Message	Hello Hannah was born 11/7/1904 in Manchester according to family bible record. I haven't ordered her birth certificate yet however parents were entered in book as John Aspray and Jane Fulham. I have been unable to find a marriage for John and Jane should this have happened. At this stage I am stuck at the 1911 census which I will post below. If anyone can help me progress beyond this I would be grateful. Thank you Sylvia Hannah Aspray in the 1911 England Census Name Hannah Aspray Age in 1911 7 Estimated Birth Year abt 1904 Relation to Head Daughter Gender Female Civil parish Manchester County/Island Lancashire Country England Street Address 1 Thompsons Court Manchester Occupation School Registration District Number 466 Sub-registration district St George ED, institution, or vessel 01 Piece 24134 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship John Aspray 51 Head Jane Aspray 50 Wife Mary Jane Aspray 17 Daughter John William Aspray 15 Son Clara Aspray 11 Daughter Henry Aspray 8 Son Hannah Aspray 7 Daughter
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	greyghost	Report	10 Mar 2026 17:08
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	1911 census shows John and Jane as married 20 years. 5 children born to marriage and 5 still alive. Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: ASPRAY, JOHN WILLIAM FULHAM GRO Reference: 1896 S Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 287 ASPRAY, CLARA FIELDING GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 305 Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: ASPRAY, HANNAH FULHAM GRO Reference: 1904 S Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 293
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	greyghost	Report	10 Mar 2026 17:14
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 28, Angel Street, Manchester, Lancashire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Aspray Head Married Male 41 1860 Cloth warehouse porter Manchester, Lancashire, England Jane Aspray Wife Married Female 40 1861 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Mary Jane Aspray Daughter Single Female 7 1894 - Manchester, Lancashire, England John Wm Aspray Son Single Male 4 1897 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Clara Aspray Daughter Single Female 1 1900 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	greyghost	Report	10 Mar 2026 17:16
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	Jane a widow 1921 Census Of England & Wales 7, Birchall Street, Manchester, Lancashire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer Jane Aspray Head Female 1865 55 Manchester, Lancashire, England - - Henry Aspray Son Male 1901 19 Manchester, Lancashire, England Glass Blower Lyons Ink Out Of Work Hannah Aspray Daughter Female 1904 17 Manchester, Lancashire, England Paker Bag Maker Erers & Co
Member Since: July 2003 Posts: 34 Send Message	Angela	Report	10 Mar 2026 17:23
Member Since: July 2003 Posts: 34 Send Message	Thank you very much I have pretty much given up on there being a marriage between John and Jane having looked for so long. I would though be thrilled if a birth record for John born abt 1860 Manchester or his parents marriage can be found. This baptism looks likely John Aspray in the Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1901 (Cathedral) Name John Aspray Birth Date 1 Mar 1860 Baptism Date 5 Apr 1863 Parish Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George Father's Name John Aspray Mother's Name Mary Aspray Archive Roll 771
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	greyghost	Report	10 Mar 2026 17:30
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	I wonder if this has anything to do with the confusion of surnames. Depending on how the question was asked when birth registered - what's the Mother's maiden name could be interpreted as what's the maiden name of the child's mother's mother Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1867 (>99%) Fielding Catherine Manchester 8d 336 FULHAM Francis Manchester 8d 336 SMITH Eliza Ann Manchester 8d 336 STOTHER Charles Manchester 8d 336 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census 16, Lyons Court, Manchester, Lancashire, England More actions New Household members (5 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Francis Fulham Head Married Male 59 1822 Hall porter Manchester, Lancashire, England Catherine Fulham Wife Married Female 43 1838 House work Manchester, Lancashire, England Joseph Fulham Son Single Male 13 1868 Hawker Manchester, Lancashire, England Jane Fulham Daughter Single Female 17 1864 Brush maker Manchester, Lancashire, England Sophia Fulham Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: FULHAM, SOPHIA FIELDING GRO Reference: 1874 J Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 280
Member Since: July 2003 Posts: 34 Send Message	Angela	Report	10 Mar 2026 17:37
Member Since: July 2003 Posts: 34 Send Message	Well thought out :-D
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	greyghost	Report	10 Mar 2026 17:45
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census 76, Devonshire Street, Hulme, Chorlton, Lancashire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Talent Head Married Male 60 1831 General labourer Ireland Mary Talent Wife Married Female 58 1833 - Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales Hannah Aspray Stepdaughter Married Female 25 1866 Staymaker Manchester, Lancashire, England John Aspray Stepson Married Male 30 1861 Warehouseman Manchester, Lancashire, England William H Aspray Grandson - Male 18 1873 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England Mary E Aspray Granddaughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England Sarah A Aspray Granddaughter - Female 1 1890 - Manchester, Lancashire, England John Thos Pimlott Visitor Married Male 29 1862 Warehouseman Bowden, Cheshire, England Ellen Pimlott Visitor Married Female 27 1864 - Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales William Pimlott Visitor - Male 0 1891 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1873 (>99%) ASPREY Mary Manchester 8d 227 MORRIS Samuel Manchester 8d 227 TALLENT John Manchester 8d 227 Tomlinson Margaret Manchester 8d 227 Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1873 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Reference Add to Summary TALLENT * John ASPREY Mary 1873 Manchester Cathedral (formerly Manchester Collegiate Church) Archives+, Manchester Central Library CATH/193/198
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	greyghost	Report	10 Mar 2026 17:56
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	1871 England Census Name John Asprey Age 11 Estimated Birth Year 1860 Relation Son Gender Male Where born Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil parish Chorlton on Medlock Ecclesiastical parish St Philip County/Island Lancashire Country England Registration District Chorlton Sub-registration district Chorlton upon Medlock ED, institution, or vessel 33 Household schedule number 113 Piece 3992 Folio 62 Page number 22 Household members Name Age Mary Asprey 39 - born Wales. she is a widow Martha Asprey 15 Mary Asprey 12 John Asprey 11 Sarah Ann Asprey 8 Hannah Asprey 5 Terance Keegan 28 James Wareing 50 Mary Wareing 48 John Clondsdale 29
Member Since: July 2003 Posts: 34 Send Message	Angela	Report	10 Mar 2026 17:58
Member Since: July 2003 Posts: 34 Send Message	So the Asprey - Tallent marriage certificate should show Marys maiden name?
Member Since: July 2003 Posts: 34 Send Message	Angela	Report	10 Mar 2026 17:59
Member Since: July 2003 Posts: 34 Send Message	Thank you so much for all of this help. You are a STAR :-)
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	greyghost	Report	10 Mar 2026 18:01
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	1861 England Census - Asberry on original First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Maberry Head - Male 34 1827 Cab driver Middleton, Lancashire, England Mary Maberry Wife - Female 30 1831 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England Martha Maberry Daughter - Female 5 1856 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Mary ... Maberry Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Manchester, Lancashire, England John Maberry Son - Male 1 1860 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Henry Mandell Lodger - Male 38 1823 House keeper Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Harriett Mandell Lodger - Female 48 1813 - Cornwall, England MAndell reads Marshall on original
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	greyghost	Report	10 Mar 2026 18:10
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	?? Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: ASPRAY, MARTHA GROVES GRO Reference: 1858 S Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 132
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	greyghost	Report	10 Mar 2026 18:15
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	Death - ? Name: Age at Death (in years): ASPREY, JOHN 39 GRO Reference: 1865 S Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 153
Member Since: July 2003 Posts: 34 Send Message	Angela	Report	10 Mar 2026 18:17
Member Since: July 2003 Posts: 34 Send Message	So looking for a Mary Groves marrying a John Aspray or similar?
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	greyghost	Report	10 Mar 2026 18:25
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	Marriage cert. on an Ancestry family tree has Mary Ellen Aspray aged 23 marrying John Murphy age 23 on 10.7.1882 at St Philip's Hulme. Father given as John Aspray deceased who was a Cab driver
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	greyghost	Report	10 Mar 2026 18:31
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	Baptism John Aspray Record details Name John Aspray Birth Date 1 Mar 1860 Baptism Date 5 Apr 1863 Parish Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George Father's Name John Aspray Mother's Name Mary Aspray Archive Roll 771 From original - Father a Cab Driver. Abode - Chorlton upon Medlock
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	greyghost	Report	10 Mar 2026 18:33
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	Name John Aspray Age 53 Estimated Birth Year abt 1862 Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place Manchester, Lancashire, United Kingdom Death Date Mar 1915 Inferred Death Place Lancashire, United Kingdom Volume 8d Page 366 Close
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	greyghost	Report	10 Mar 2026 18:35
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	MARRIAGE - Name John Aspray Gender Male Marriage Age 22 Event Type Marriage Birth Year abt 1860 Marriage Date 14 May 1882 Marriage Place Hulme, St Philip, Manchester, England Parish as it Appears Hulme Father John Aspray Spouse Esther Ann Duffey Reference Number M320/4/2/2 Item Number 6 Archive Roll 811 From original - John's Father named as John ASpray deceased, a cab driver Esther's Father John Duffy deceased Mechanic DEATH - Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Deaths Dec 1889 (>99%) ASPRAY Esther Ann 29 Chorlton 8c 5
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	greyghost	Report	10 Mar 2026 18:50
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,993 Send Message	1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 14, Upper Wilmott Street, South Manchester, Chorlton, Lancashire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Mary Talent Head Widow Female 67 1834 - Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales William H Aspery Grand son Single Male 22 1879 Carter coal Manchester, Lancashire, England Mary Aspery Grand daughter Single Female 15 1886 Hooker whc warehouse Manchester, Lancashire, England Sarah A Aspery Grand daughter - Female 7 1894 - Manchester, Lancashire, England John Murphy Son-in-law Widower Male 41 1860 Boot & shoe maker Ireland John Murphy Grand son - Male 12 1889 - Manchester, Lancashire, England David Murphy Grand son - Male 10 1891 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Hugh Murphy Grand son - Male 7 1894 - Manchester, Lancashire, England

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