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Yvonne
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4 Jul 2025 00:57 |
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I'm trying to find a marriage between Albert Edward Bennett, Born about 1872 in Holloway, London, and Beatrice Ellen Marshall Courtney, born about 1882 in Buttevant Barracks, Co. Cork, Ireland. In 1901 Beatrice is living with her parents in Lanarkshire. In 1911 she's married with one child born in Swansea and two later ones born in Anfield, Liverpool. On FamilySearch I found a reference to Beatrice's birth and giving 107th Foot. In 1901 census her father's is shown as Band Master (volunteers) and his place of birth is England (doesn't specify where). It looks like Albert and Beatrice married somewhere between 1901 and 1911 but I can't find a reference anywhere. Thanks to anyone who can help.
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SylviaInCanada
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4 Jul 2025 03:21 |
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If you look on the image of the 1911 Census, it shows the number of years married for Beatrice ............... 11 years.
First name(s) Beatrice Ellen Marshall Last name Bennett Sex Female Birth year 1882 Age 29 Age as transcribed 29 Relationship to head Wife Marital status Married Marriage year 1900 <<<<<<<<<<<<< Years married 11 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Total children born 3 Children still living 3 Children who have died NIL Birth place Butterant Barracks Cork Ireland Birth place as transcribed Butterant Barracks Cork Ireland Full address 53 Harrow Road Anfield Liverpool, Walton on the Hill, Lancashire, England Address 53 Harrow Road Anfield Liverpool
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SylviaInCanada
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4 Jul 2025 03:42 |
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I've looked on FreeBMD, FindMyPast, Ancestry, and on Scotland's People and cannot find a marriage.
There are lots of marriages for Albert Edward Bennett, and something makes me wonder whether Albert Edward and Beatrice did marry at all, or didn't marry until years later.
Something to consider, and not unusual if Albert Edward was already married but left his wife to live with Beatrice.
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nameslessone
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4 Jul 2025 08:20 |
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Oddly there are only 5 names on that list. Beatrice and George married each other - see 1939 index.
Added: In 1901 Beatrice, age 17, appears to be already using the name Bennett. Needs to be checked but I don't have access to the full scotticsh census page.
Update: This thread ties in with another -they should have been posted together as one https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1404009
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Abby
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4 Jul 2025 08:47 |
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married in scotland
Surname Forename Spouse Surname Spouse Forename Year Ref RD Name BENNETT ALBERT EDWARD COURTNEY BEATRICE ELLEN 1899 644 / 9 / 469 Kelvin View (6 credits)
Order certificate
you need scotlands people site
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Yvonne
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4 Jul 2025 20:12 |
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Thank you. Just checked Scotlands People site and found Beatrice in the 1901 census but when I put in the details for the marriage I get no results. I tried to buy credits but the site has my old address and it's not letting me change it. I've contacted them so will wait to hear. I can't understand why I'm not getting any results for the marriage though.
As to the other thread mentioned by nameslessone, yes the families are linked but I didn't want to confuse the two requests.
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alviegal
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4 Jul 2025 21:29 |
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1921
1921 Census Of England & Wales 21, Finchley Road, Anfield, Walton on the Hill, Lancashire, England
Household members (7 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer Albert Edward Bennett Head Male 1872 49 Holloway, London, England Claines Inspector L & N W Railway Claines Inspector L & N W Railway Beatrice E M Bennett Wife Female 1881 39 Cork, Ireland Home Duties - Walter W C Bennett Son Male 1906 15 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Office Boy Messrs G Wall & Co, Wholesale Provision Merchants Ernest A C Bennett Son Male 1912 9 Liverpool, Lancashire, England - - Ada D C Bennett Daughter Female 1913 7 Liverpool, Lancashire, England - - Arthur D C Bennett Son Male 1916 5 Liverpool, Lancashire, England - - George M L C Bennett Son Male 1920 1 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 2, Glasgow Street, Govan, Partick, Lanarkshire, Scotland Household members (11 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Ellen McGarry Head Widow Female 46 1855 - Ireland Mary McGarry Daughter Single Female 20 1881 Waterproof coat maker Ireland Bernard McGarry Son Single Male 18 1883 Banker Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Joseph McGarry Son - Male 16 1885 Joiners apprentice Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Henry McGarry Son - Male 13 1888 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland William Courtney Head Married Male 59 1842 Bandmaster (volunteers) England Mary A Courtney Wife Married Female 42 1859 - England Maud E A Bonnett Daughter Single Female 22 1879 Drapers assistant England Beatrice E M Bonnett Daughter Married Female 19 1882 - Ireland Bertha H M Courtney Daughter Single Female 13 1888 Scholar England Dorothy E L Courtney Daughter - Female 10 1891 Scholar Wales - -
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Yvonne
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5 Jul 2025 19:10 |
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Good morning! I managed to get a look at the marriage of Alfred and Beatrice.
They were married 14 September 1899 at St. Mary's Episcopal Church, Glasgow. It's not the easiest read but it gives Albert as a Colour Sergeant, 1st Battalion, Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders, age 27 Parents Henry Bennett, Livestock Inspector and Maria Bennett (and under that M. S. Allum or Allan)
Beatrice is shown as age 18, spinster, Glasgow Street. Parents shown as William Courtney, Bandmaster, and Polly Courtney and under Polly's name it says M. S. Alford (or that's what it looks like).
Witnesses: James ?? Leith and Maria Eveline Alford Courtney
Under 'Usual Residence' it gives Richmond Barracks for Alfred and Dublin for Beatrice.
Is it usual for both parents to be shown on Scottish marriages?
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alviegal
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5 Jul 2025 20:02 |
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Yes Yvonne, Scottish MCs have both parents names on them and also mother's maiden name so very, very helpful.
I think Maria Eveline may be Maud Eveline, a sister of Beatrice.
>>COURTNEY, MAUD EVELINE ALFORD ALFORD GRO Reference: 1879 M Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 469 COURTNEY, BERTHA HELENA MARY ALFORD GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 191 COURTNEY, DOROTHY EVA LOUISE ALFORD GRO Reference: 1890 D Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 772 Occasional Copy: A
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Jink20
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5 Jul 2025 20:55 |
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There is a Bennett, A E Quarter Master 11th Battalion Argyll's who is promoted to hon. Lt 12th March 1915. He is awarded the 14/15 Star, Victory Medal and British War Medal. Capt Bennett (same person as above) applied for his medals (as Officers had to apply, enlisted were sent them) to be sent to 21 Finchley Road, Anfield, Liverpool.
He applied for an "Oak leaf" in 1920. Oak leaf denotes a Mention in Despatches for gallant or meritorious action in the face of the enemy. A MID can be found in the Gazette.
Wasn't an answer to your question but as the Battalion was mentioned earlier, I thought it may be of interest to you.
If you would like to see the card from which this information was obtained, register and sign in to the National Archives webite. The info can be found here...
Reference: WO 372/24/4487 Description: Medal card of Bennett, A E Corps Regiment No Rank Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders Temporary Quarter Master and Honorary Lieutenant
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Yvonne
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5 Jul 2025 22:41 |
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Alviegal you're probably right about it being Maud, it is very difficult to read so just made a guess. I wish all marriages showed both parents, it would be extremely helpful.
Thanks Jink20 for the military information, very interesting, and helps to fill out the story so that it's not just names and dates.
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ErikaH
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8 Jul 2025 16:12 |
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Transcript of Beatrice E M's record Copy to clipboard First name(s) Beatrice E M Archive reference REG1 Last name Courtney Source Gro Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924) Sex Female Volume 1644 Birth year 1881 Page 88 Organisation Armed Forces Line number 33 Regiment 107th Foot Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Births And Baptisms Place Buttevant Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Country Ireland Subcategory Civil Births
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Yvonne
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9 Jul 2025 01:02 |
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Thanks Erika, so she was in the military as well as her husband and boy did they move around a lot.
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ArgyllGran
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9 Jul 2025 08:26 |
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Beatrice wasn't "in the military" herself, Yvonne.
Her FATHER was. The record posted by ErikaH is Beatrice's birth record. It shows that she was born in 1881 in Ireland while her father was in the British Armed Forces (107th Foot).
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Yvonne
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9 Jul 2025 18:08 |
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Duh - of course if I'd read it properly and not when I'm tired I'd have got that. Thanks for setting me straight.
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Yvonne
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14 Sep 2025 23:23 |
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I'm adding to this post. You all gave me some excellent information on Albert Edward Bennett and his wife Beatrice Ellen Marshall Bennet. What I'm trying to find out now is where their daughter, Beatrice Bertha Courtney Bennett was in 1921. She was born in 1908 in Liverpool and I found her in the 1911 census but she doesn't seem to be with the family in 1921. The only Beatrice Bertha that shows up in 1921 is with a completely different family. Any suggestions?
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ArgyllGran
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14 Sep 2025 23:54 |
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Is this the one you found? She's the right girl, with an uncle and aunt:
Beatrice Bertha Courtney Bennett in the 1921 England Census Name Beatrice Bertha Courtney Bennett Gender Female Age 12 Years 10 Months Relation to Head Niece Orphanhood Both Parents Alive Estimated Birth Year 1908 Birth Place Liverpool, Lancashire, England Residence Date 1921 Residence Street Address 12 Montpelier Villas Residence Place Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Education Whole-Time Inhabited Y Ward South, Middle Parliamentary Division Cheltenham Pb Registration District Cheltenham Registration District Number 333 Sub registration district Cheltenham Sub Registration District Number 2 Respondent Mr L Robinson Enumeration District Name Cheltenham Mb Enumeration District 29 Schedule 109 Schedule Type Code E Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Liowel Wilson Harrman Robinson 32 Years 3 Months Head Bertha Helena Robinson 33 Years 9 Months Wife William Frederick Courtney Robinson 6 Years 5 Months Son May Bertha Courtney Robinson 1 Year 1 Month Daughter William Courteney 79 Years 6 Months Father-in-law Dorothy Eva Louisa Courteney 30 Years 8 Months Sister-in-law Albert Henry Courtney Bennett 17 Years 11 Months Nephew Beatrice Bertha Courtney Bennett 12 Years 10 Months Niece
Lionel W H Robinson in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name Lionel W H Robinson Spouse Surname Courtney Registration Year 1913 [1913] Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District Portsmouth Inferred County Hampshire Volume 2b Page 1143 Records on Page (Name) Bertha H M Courtney Lionel W H Robinson
Bertha Courtney was a sister of Beatrice's mother, Beatrice Ellen.
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ArgyllGran
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15 Sep 2025 00:01 |
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Following young Beatrice after that, in case you don't have it:
Beatrice B C Bennett in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name Beatrice B C Bennett Registration Date Jul 1938 [Aug 1938] [Sep 1938] Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District Liverpool Inferred County Lancashire Spouse James Draper Volume Number 8b Page number 761
Beatrice B C Draper in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name Beatrice B C Draper Gender Female Marital Status Married Birth Date 20 Aug 1908 Residence Date 1939 Address 21 Finchley Road Residence Place Liverpool, Lancashire, England Occupation Unpaid Domestic Duties Line Number 17 Schedule Number 142 Sub Schedule Number 2 Enumeration District Nigs Borough Liverpool Registration District 455/2. Inferred Spouse James Draper Inferred Children Alan J Draper Household Members (Name) Gender Birth Year James Draper Male 1910 Beatrice B C Draper Female 1908 Alan J Draper Male 1939
Beatrice Bertha C Draper in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name Beatrice Bertha C Draper Death Age 64 Birth Date 1908 Registration Date Jan 1972 [Feb 1972] [Mar 1972] Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District Liverpool Inferred County Lancashire Volume 10d Page 799
Beatrice B C Draper in the England & Scotland, Select Cemetery Registers, 1800-2024 Name Beatrice B C Draper Age 63 Record Type Cremation Cremation Date 9 Feb 1972 Burial Place Liverpool, Lancashire, England
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ArgyllGran
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15 Sep 2025 00:03 |
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Beatrice Bertha Courteney Draper in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995 Name Beatrice Bertha Courteney Draper Death Date 3 Feb 1972 Death Place Allerton Liverpool Probate Date 1 Mar 1972 Probate Registry Liverpool
Home address: 12B Yorkaster Road, Allerton, Liverpool.
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ArgyllGran
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15 Sep 2025 00:11 |
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She travelled alone home from New York, in 1956:
Beatrice Draper in the UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 Name Beatrice Draper Arrival Age 47 Birth Date 20 Aug 1908 Port of Departure New York, New York, USA Arrival Date 25 May 1956 Port of Arrival Liverpool, England Ports of Voyage New York Ship Name Britannic Shipping Line Cunard Steamship Company Ltd Official Number 0896/01
Address: 12B Yorkaster Road.
I don't see the outward voyage on Ancestry, so far.
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