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The info I posted should have cleared all confusion :-S :-S

Ignore the 1891 marriage - NOT relevant

Thank you for all this info. It's getting so confusing.

I've ordered the birth cert for Albert Edward.

First name(s) Maria Louisa
Son or daughter Daughter
Last name Allam
Father's first name(s) Alexander Felix
Birth year 1840
Mother's first name(s) Mary Ann
Baptism year 1840
Notes Bailiff
Baptism day 4
Record set Hampshire Baptisms
Baptism month Oct
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Parish Newton Valence
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
County Hampshire
Collections from England, Great Britain
Country England

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Newton Street, Newton Valence, Alton, Hampshire, England

Alexander Felix Allam Head Married Male 51 1800 Bailiff to h chawner esqr emp 15 farm labours & 5 boys who East Tisted, Hampshire, England
Mary Ann Allam Wife - Female 46 1805 Bailiff wife West Tisted, Hampshire, England
Jane Allam Daughter Unmarried Female 22 1829 There is a landed proprietor of 517 acres East Tisted, Hampshire, England
Edwin Allam Son Unmarried Male 20 1831 Ag lab East Tisted, Hampshire, England
William Allam Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 - Newton Valence, Hampshire, England
Mary Elizabeth Allam Daughter - Female 13 1838 Scholar Newton Valence, Hampshire, England
James Allam Son - Male 12 1839 Scholar Newton Valence, Hampshire, England
Maria Louisa Allam Daughter - Female 10 1841 Scholar Newton Valence, Hampshire, England
Frances Emma Allam Daughter - Female 8 1843 Scholar Newton Valence, Hampshire, England
Harriett Allam Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Newton Valence, Hampshire, England
Agnes Kate Allam Daughter - Female 4 1847 Scholar Newton Valence, Hampshire, England

ALLAM, MARIA LOUISA (MMN) MORETON
GRO Reference: 1840 D Quarter in ALTON UNION Volume 07 Page 5

1911 Census For England & Wales
Clovelly Park Close Road Alton, Alton, Hampshire, England

Henry Bennett Head Married Male 70 1841 Superanuated railway tent Westmeon Hants
Maria Louisa Bennett Wife Married Female 70 1841 - Newton Valence Hants
Ada Maria Warner Daughter Widow Female 45 1866 - Westmeon Hants

1921 Census Of England & Wales
London Road, Holybourne, Hampshire, England
Ada Maria Warner Head Female 1866 55 Hampshire, England None -
Thomas Warner Son Male 1906 15 Hampshire, England - -
William Whiten Warner Son Male 1908 13 Hampshire, England - -
Henry Bennett Father Male 1841 80 Hampshire, England - -
Maria Louisa Bennett Mother Female 1840 80 Hampshire, England - -

Deaths Sep 1925 (>99%)
Bennett Maria L 84 Alton 2c 178

GRO entry
BENNETT, MARIA LOUISA 84
GRO Reference: 1925 S Quarter in ALTON Volume 02C Page 178

Deaths Jun 1922 (>99%)
Bennett Henry 81 Alton 2c 198

On desktop now, so can C&P

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
38, Gladstone Street, Peterborough St John the Baptist, Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England

Henry Bennett Head Married Male 40 1841 Rly inspector West Meon, Hampshire, England
Maria L Bennett Wife Married Female 40 1841 - Newton Valence, Hampshire, England
Henry Wm Bennett Son Single Male 13 1868 Scholar West Meon, Hampshire, England
Walter Jas Bennett Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Middlesex, England
Albert E Bennett Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Middlesex, England************
Frank M Bennett Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Middlesex, England
Ernest Bennett Son Single Male 3 1878 - Boston, Lincolnshire, England


BENNETT, ALBERT EDWARD ALLAM
GRO Reference: 1872 M Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 263

Name Henry Bennett
Gender Male
Marriage Age Full age
Record Type Marriage
Marriage Date 18 May 1865
Marriage Place Farringdon, Southampton, England
Residence Place West Meon
Parish as it Appears Faringdon
Occupation Innkeeper
Spouse Maria Louisa Allam
Father William Bennett************************************************

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Westmeon, East Part, Meon, West, Droxford, Hampshire, England
William Bennett Male 45 1796 Hampshire, England
Lucy Bennett Female 40 1801 Hampshire, England
Joseph Bennett Male 12 1829 Hampshire, England
George Bennett Male 10 1831 Hampshire, England
Amelia Bennett Female 8 1833 Hampshire, England
Elijah Bennett Male 6 1835 Hampshire, England
Jane Bennett Female 4 1837 Hampshire, England
Mary Bennett Female 2 1839 Hampshire, England
Henry Bennett Male 0 1841 Hampshire, England


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Village, Westmeon, Droxford, Hampshire, England
William Bennett Head Married Male 54 1797 Carrier Soberton, Hampshire, England
Lucy Bennett Wife Married Female 48 1803 Carrier wife Alton, Hampshire, England
Elijah Bennett Son Unmarried Male 18 1833 Serv Hampshire, England
Jane Bennett Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1836 Serv Hampshire, England
Mary Anna Bennett Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1839 Scholar Hampshire, England
Henry Bennett Son Unmarried Male 10 1841 Scholar Hampshire, England
John Bennett Son Unmarried Male 8 1843 Scholar Hampshire, England
Elizabeth Bennett Daughter Unmarried Female 6 1845 Scholar St Giles, Middlesex, England
Walter Bennett Son Unmarried Male 4 1847 Scholar Hampshire, England
Alice Bennett Grand daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Hampshire, England


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
College Avenue, St Pancras, London & Middlesex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry Bennett Head - Male 30 1841 Railway gaurd West Meon, Hampshire, England
Maria L Bennett Wife - Female 30 1841 - Newton Valence, Hampshire, England
Ada Maria Bennett Daughter - Female 5 1866 - West Meon, Hampshire, England
Henry W Bennett Son - Male 3 1868 - West Meon, Hampshire, England
Walter J Bennett Son - Male 1 1870 - St Pancras, Middlesex, England
William Bennett Father - Male 79 1792 Carrier retired Soberton, Hampshire, England
Walter Bennett Brother - Male 23 1848 Clerk West Meon, Hampshire, England

First name(s) Henry
Country England
Last name Bennett
Son or daughter Son
Birth year 1841
Father's first name(s) Wm
Baptism year 1841
Mother's first name(s) Lucy
Baptism day 24
Record set Hampshire Baptisms
Baptism month Jan
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Parish West Meon
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
County Hampshire


BENNETT, HENRY (MMN) VENTHAM
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in DROXFORD UNION Volume 07 Page 71

I’m not convinced that the man who married in 1891 was the father of ALBERT……unless you have info which proves that it is the same man.

What was his occupation?

What made you look at that marriage? In all honesty, it doesn’t seem to be in ANY way connected to your family

Henry was in Peterborough in 1881.

Don’t keep confusing AllaM with AllaN for Albert’s mother or you’ll end up in a mess ;-) ;-)

I told you what FMP has for Albert’s mother’s maiden name….which was how I found the marriage of his parents

Use the GRO site…..MMN is recorded on all births

I don’t know how you’re recording the info, but if you put it all into a ‘tree’, it will probably look a a lot clearer

This gets so confusing.

So I found Henry Bennett married Maria Louise Allan in 1865.

Frederick George Allan married Mary Ann Bennett in 1884. Frederick was living at 27 Whitmore Road, Mary Ann was at 9 Canal Road.

Henry Bennett (a widower) married Mary Ann Allan (a widow) in 1891. Henry was living at 27 Whitmore Road.

Albert Edward Bennett was born 1872 so parents are probably Maria Louise Allan and Henry Bennett.

Frederick Allan must've died between 1884 and 1891 but couldn't find a death and haven't found a death for Maria Louisa.

Couldn't find Henry in 1881 census, but I'll keep looking.

Mary Ann Bennett MAY have married a Frederick Allen…..check on Ancestry

George Bennett, c1815, retired pork butcher, born BATH is at the Whitmore Road address in 1891.

For anyone else trying to help…..it’s in Shoreditch. Helps to have all info, if available

Henry Bennett married Maria Louisa Allam in 1865……see freebmd

I just looked on FMP and found Albert’s birth quite quickly. MMN Allum

Cert will confirm mother’s name

Look for the 1872 birth

Or find Albert with his parents in 1881…. Mary is NOT the same as Maria, and if the maiden name of Albert’s mother was Allen or similar, that doesn’t fit with the 1891 marriage as that woman’s maiden name was BENNETT

Dig deeper………… ;-) ;-)

Looking for a bit more help here please.
Earlier in this thread I mentioned the marriage of Albert Edward and Beatrice. Albert's parents were shown as Henry Bennett and Maria Bennett (and under that M. S. Allum or Allan).
In looking for info on Henry I found a marriage for him in 1891.
The details: Henry Bennett 40, widower, 27 Whitmore Road, father Henry Bennet, gardener
Mary Ann Allan 35, widow, 41 Whitmore Road, father George Bennett, pork butcher.
If this is the Maria mentioned above then she wouldn't be the mother of Albert Edward as he was born in 1872.
I'm not finding anything to support this.

Oh, okay, thanks Erika. I didn't think of that.

It was the other way round - the ship’s destination was Halifax, N S -New York was a port of call en route, as per the info I posted above

Thank you.
Just one question please. Would it be normal practice for a ship destined for NY to stop at Halifax, Nova Scotia, as in the record?

Yes , Beatrice returned to the UK……….that’s the record found and posted by AG

For our reference -

Ada Dorothy Courtney Bennett married Glyn Jones in 1935 in Anfield, Lancs.

In 1939, Ada, her mother, and two other people (probably Ada's daughters Janet and Patricia) were in Crosby, Lancs.

Ada and daughters emigrated to USA in 1951 on the "Mauretania".
Glyn had already gone earlier that year, on RMS "Nova Scotia".

Their third child was born in 1953 in Montana.

In 1957, Glyn and Ada (5ft 3ins, blue eyes, blonde hair) , then living in Los Angeles, petitioned for naturalisation.

Glyn died in 1964 in LA.

Ada must have remarried, because she died in 2004 under the name Rigby.

Thanks again for all this info. I'll have to delve further and see if I can find who it was she was visiting. It could be her sister, Ada Dorothy b. 1913, as I've heard mention of an Auntie Ada. Beatrice definitely returned to UK as she died in UK.

She had an address of East Villa Street, 2468 Pasadena, California. Saxonia arriving N Y on the 17 Mar 1956.

https://www.statueofliberty.org/


EDIT Just moving ArgyllGrans list to this page.


Beatrice Draper
in the UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name Beatrice Draper
Arrival Age 47
Birth Date 20 Aug 1908
Port of Departure New York, New York, USA
Arrival Date 25 May 1956
Port of Arrival Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage New York
Ship Name Britannic
Shipping Line Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number 0896/01