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Paternal grand father William Montgomery siblings

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Helsbels16

Helsbels16 Report 30 Mar 2024 17:03

Hi all I am new to all of this and very excited to start. My dad can’t remember a lot of names and dates.
His father william died in loanhead Midlothian Scotland 15th April 1972.
My grandmother was called Mary tennant she was adopted so I don’t hold out much hope of finding out a lot about her family.
I would like to find Williams siblings and parents. I know that William was a miner. My dad thinks his father’s name was George and mother Elizabeth. And that they went to Scotland from Ireland.
Thank you for reading

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 30 Mar 2024 18:20

FindaGrave for William & Mary showing headstone

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/255382090/william-montgomery

Edit
William died 15 Apr 1972 aged 67

Mary died 26 Feb 1980 aged 73

She had a Sister Emily Grainger the wife of James. She died 2 Nov 1988 aged 80.

Jink20

Jink20 Report 30 Mar 2024 18:23

Scotland's People entry Marriage

TENNANT MARY ALLAN R S
MONTGOMERY WILLIAM
1932
691 / 26
LASSWADE

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2024 18:31

Welcome to the boards, Helen.

There may be some difficulties in finding out much .
Irish records are very patchy, and adoption records are confidential.


Your grandfather's probable death (although a William John Montgomery died in 1972 in the Newington area of Edinburgh).


MONTGOMERY WILLIAM
67
M
1972
764 / 82
Bonnyrigg and Lasswade


His marriage:

MONTGOMERY WILLIAM
TENNANT MARY ALLAN R S
1932
691 / 26
Lasswade


If you register with Scotland People, and buy credits (£7.50 for 30 credits) you can view the image of the original marriage cert (cost 6 credits). That will tell you William's parents' names. .
It probably won't give you much info about Mary, as she was adopted.

Then you can search for his parents' marriage, and work backwards from there.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Jink20

Jink20 Report 30 Mar 2024 18:46

Scotlands People Marriage

Same James and Emily as LondonBelle 30 Mar 2024 18:20 ??

GRAINGER JAMES BUCHANAN
TENNANT EMILY ELLIOTT
1938
691 / 20
LASSWADE

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2024 18:47

A suggestion re Mary's possible birth , if her birth names were kept when when she was adopted , with the new surname of Tennant added.

(I see that for some reason I've already looked at this record on SP, in 2014.)

STEWART
MARY ALLAN RICH- - - - -
F
1907
685 / 4 / 20
St Giles

Mary Allan Richardson Stewart, illegitimate.
Born 14 December at 87 Morrison Street, Edinburgh.
Mother: Mary Jane Stewart, domestic nurse.
Mary Jane's address: Cherry Cottage, Edzell.


Jink20

Jink20 Report 30 Mar 2024 18:49

1911 Census Scotlands People

TENNANT EMILY E
1911
F
3
691/ 8/ 4
LASSWADE
MIDLOTHIAN


Also
TENNANT MARY S
1911
F
4
691/ 8/ 4
LASSWADE
MIDLOTHIAN

TENNANT MARY
1911
F
24
691/ 8/ 12
LASSWADE
MIDLOTHIAN

TENNANT MARY
1921
F
14
691/ 8/ 4
LASSWADE
MIDLOTHIAN

Helsbels16

Helsbels16 Report 30 Mar 2024 18:49

Hi all. Thank you so much for the information.
:-D

alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Mar 2024 19:00

1921

TENNANT
EMILY E
1921
F
13
691/ 8/ 4
Lasswade
Midlothian


TENNANT
MARY
1921
F
14
691/ 8/ 4
Lasswade
Midlothian


TENNANT
WILLIAM A
1921
M
21
691/ 8/ 4
Lasswade
Midlothian


TENNANT
ELIZABETH A
1921
F
55
691/ 8/ 4
Lasswade
Midlothian


TENNANT
WILLIAM
1921
M
56
691/ 8/ 4
Lasswade
Midlothian

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2024 19:02

This is the thread for which I looked up Mary's birth , back in 2014:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1340955

It seems to have been a thread you started yourself, even though you say you have just started researching.
You must have had a previous GR account. Clicking on "Lexi" 's name in green brings up Helen's name.

You already knew about Mary's birth at that time.

However, today's thread is about William.
As said, you need his marriage cert to find out his parents' names.
The births of nine children named William Montgomery, with no middle name, were registered in Scotland 1904-5.

alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Mar 2024 19:07

1911

TENNANT
OLIRMAN (Elizabeth Ann I assume)
1911
F
42
691/ 8/ 4
Lasswade
Midlothian


TENNANT
MARY S
1911
F
4
691/ 8/ 4
Lasswade
Midlothian


TENNANT
WILLIAM
1911
M
43
691/ 8/ 4
Lasswade
Midlothian


TENNANT
WILLIAM A
1911
M
11
691/ 8/ 4
Lasswade
Midlothian


TENNANT
JOHN G
1911
M
15
691/ 8/ 4
Lasswade
Midlothian


TENNANT
EMILY E
1911
F
3
691/ 8/ 4
Lasswade
Midlothian







alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Mar 2024 19:22

Mary's death.

MONTGOMERY
MARY ALLAN RICH
73
F
1980
764 / 43
Bonnyrigg and Lasswade

alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Mar 2024 19:56

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
118, Church Street, Tranent, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Household members (4 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Tennant Head
Married Male 34 1867 Coal carter Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Elizabeth Ann Tennant Wife
Married Female 33 1868 - Ireland
John George Tennant Son
- Male 3 1898 - Loanhead, Midlothian, Scotland
William ?(Alexander) Tennant Son
- Male 1 1900 - Tranent, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland


Marriage

TENNANT
WILLIAM
ELLIOTT
ELIZABETH ANNIE
1891
691 / 32
Lasswade

Helsbels16

Helsbels16 Report 30 Mar 2024 20:21

Hi. I have looked on the thread. I think that is possibly my sister it’s not me. I haven’t done any research previously. We don’t have any contact , I don’t really want to get into why on here. However thank you for your help this evening on here ! It’s greatly appreciated.
I wish my dad knew more as in dates and names Ect.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2024 20:28

Go to Scotland’s People website and buy credits so that you can look at the 1932 marriage cert.
You will than have info about the previous generation which will be a basis on which to work backwards

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 30 Mar 2024 22:53

Helen ................

The best piece of advice I can give to a newbie researcher is not to take any information that someone gives you or that you find on a family tree anywhere as gospel truth, not even that given on here by these excellent helpers.

Take the information as a starting point, and find proof of everything you have been told.

Work back slowly, buy as many birth, marriage and death certificates as you can afford, otherwise you are very likely to find yourself following a wrong track. We've all done it at one time or another!

Good luck in your research

Helsbels16

Helsbels16 Report 30 Mar 2024 23:12

Brilliant advise I will follow !!! Thank you. :-)

alviegal

alviegal Report 31 Mar 2024 10:18

William and Mary's children?

MONTGOMERY
LESLIE
M
1945
691 / 44
Lasswade


MONTGOMERY
ALASTAIR ELLIOT
M
1938
691 / 114
Lasswade


MONTGOMERY
ELIZABETH ANN E
F
1933
691 / 130
Lasswade

Helsbels16

Helsbels16 Report 31 Mar 2024 11:16

Oh yes ! Thank you. That’s my dad his brother and sister. <3

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Mar 2024 11:21

According to the earlier thread, the poster has the 1932 marriage cert, so should know names of the groom's parents

EDITED

The bride's birth mother's name is on the cert :-S :-S

Unfortunately, the mother is NOT at the birth address in 1901