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WhiffingSiggs

WhiffingSiggs Report 23 Nov 2020 17:51

Born circa 1823 (London, St Sepulchre?) 1861 census recorded with daughter Hannah (born 1856) . eldest daughter Rose (8yrs) appears to be living as a 'nurse child' in Kensington. I once recorded their mother as Mary Ann Cousins who died in 1858 but I can't find evidence for that. I'm trying to prove who the girls mother was and anything whatsoever about George Richardson. He's recorded as a cabinet maker on the 1861 census which doesn't tie up with the number of Geo Richardsons I've found records for..

WhiffingSiggs

WhiffingSiggs Report 23 Nov 2020 17:53

p.s. If I've asked about this person before I apologise, this site doesn't seem to be working very well and over the past couple of days I've tried to search the forums but keep getting error messages.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Nov 2020 18:17

For our reference:

Rosa Richardson
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Rosa Richardson
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: 1853
Relation: Nurse Child (Nurse)
Gender: Female
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Kensington St Mary Abbott
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: London
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration District: Kensington
Sub-registration District: Brompton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 26
Piece: 22
Folio: 9
Page Number: 9


Birth:

RICHARDSON, ROSA -
GRO Reference: 1853 M Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 252

Illegitimate birth, therefore mother's surname was Richardson - unless she lied.
Therefore doesn't seem to be George's child, unless by chance the mother was also caled Richardson.

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Nov 2020 18:18

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
65, West Street, St Sepulchre, West London (City of London), London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Richardson Head Widower Male 38 1823 Cabinet Maker -
Hannah Richardson Daughter - Female 5 1856 Scholar Shoreditch, Middlesex, England

Although George has no birthplace and Hannah says Shoreditch, the original looks to have "slipped" a line and probably should read that he was born Shoreditch and Hannah (last name on page) Bethnal Green

Have you looked at freebmd and then the GRO site to check for births showing mmn?

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp - register, but free to use

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Nov 2020 18:23

George Richardson
in the 1861 England Census
Name: George Richardson
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: 1823
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: St Sepulchre
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration District: West London
Sub-registration District: West London North
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 50
Piece: 216
Folio: 32
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
George Richardson 38
Hannah Richardson 5
William Stevenson 70 - (different household)

The birthplaces of George and Hannah are written on the wrong lines, but it looks as if George was born in Shoreditch, and Hannah in Bethnal Green.


Possibly Hannah's birth, if census is correct :

RICHARDSON, HANNAH mms SMITH
GRO Reference: 1857 J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 264

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Nov 2020 18:24

Or there's this other child, who is more likely:

Hannah Susannah Richardson
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name: Hannah Susannah Richardson
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Mar 1856
Baptism Place: St Matthias, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets, England
Father: George Richardson, cabinet maker <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother: Hannah Richardson
Register Type: Parish Registers

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Nov 2020 18:24

?? Just throwing this one in for now - have to rescue tea!

Births Mar 1856 (>99%)
RICHARDSON Hannah Susannah Bethnal Grn 1c 326

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
RICHARDSON, HANNAH SUSANNAH MOSS
GRO Reference: 1856 M Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 326

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Nov 2020 18:26

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1853 (>99%)
HOWSON William Abraham Bethnal G. 1c 525
MOSS Hannah Bethnal G 1c 525 <<<<<<<<
RICHARDSON George Bethnal G 1c 525 <<<<<<<<<
Sandall Leah Bethnal G 1c 525

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Nov 2020 18:27

Marriages Mar 1853 (>99%)
MOSS Hannah Bethnal G 1c 525
RICHARDSON George Bethnal G 1c 525


George Richardson
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: George Richardson (carver)
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 27 Feb 1853
Marriage Place: St Matthew, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets, England
Father: Daniel Richardson (carver)
Spouse: Hannah Moss
Register Type: Parish Register

Hannah's father: William Moss, cork cutter

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Nov 2020 18:30

??
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Mar 1860 (>99%)
Richardson Hannah Bethnal Gn 1c 266

Name: Age at Death (in years):
RICHARDSON, HANNAH 37
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 266

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Nov 2020 18:31

Living alone in 1851:

George Richardson
in the 1851 England Census
Name: George Richardson
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Shoreditch
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image
Registration District: Shoreditch
Sub-registration District: St Leonard
ED, institution, or vessel: 09
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 289
Piece: 1534
Folio: 310
Page Number: 64
Household Members:
Name Age
George Richardson 28 - carver,

Hard to tell if it says widowed or unmarried. Probably unmarried.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Nov 2020 18:33

George Richardson
in the 1841 England Census
Name: George Richardson
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
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Registration District: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration District: Town
Neighbors:
Piece: 694
Book: 2
Folio: 5
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Richardson 13
Elizabeth Richardson 39
George Richardson 18
Mary Richardson 14
Daniel Richardson 8

(Different household)
Esther Mercer 40
John Needham 25
Elizabeth Needham 23
Elizabeth Needham 1


Unfortunately the image is so faint that it's impossible to read occupations.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Nov 2020 18:35

Why do you think Rose/Rosa is George's daughter?

Are they together on some other record?

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Nov 2020 18:37

the original of the 1853 marriage certificate shows Hannah of 13 Grand Street (same as George). Her Father shows as William Moss a Cork Cutter

Name: Hannah Moss
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 27 Feb 1853
Marriage Place: St Matthew, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets, England
Father: William Moss
Spouse: George Richardson
Register Type: Parish Register

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Nov 2020 18:40

George Richardson
in the 1871 England Census
Name: George Richardson
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: 1823
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreditch
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Simon Zelotes
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration District: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration District: Bethnal Green
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household Schedule Number: 79
Piece: 485
Folio: 83
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
George Richardson 48 - cabinet maker
George Richardson 16 - son, shoe finisher, Bethnal Green
Harriet Richardson 13 - daughter, scholar, Bethnal Green



George Richardson
in the 1881 England Census
Name: George Richardson
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 44 Warley St
Marital status: Widower
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Cornish Maker [ Cornice pole maker ]
Registration District: Bethnal Green
Sub registration district: Bethnal Green
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors:
Piece: 422
Folio: 83
Page Number: 70
Household Members:
Name Age
George Richardson 50
Hannah Richardson 25
Edward Peter Richardson 1



RICHARDSON, HARRIET ELIZABETH mms MOSS
GRO Reference: 1858 J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 305


RICHARDSON, GEORGE HENRY mms MOSS
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 301


RICHARDSON, EDWARD PETER -
GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 245

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Nov 2020 18:46

Looking at the birth of daughter Hannah Susannah in 1856, could this be her Mother's baptism
Yes - William is a Cork cutter. Living in Philips Street

Name: Hannah Caroline Moss
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 16 Oct 1825
Baptism Place: St George in the East, Tower Hamlets, England
Father: William Moss
Mother: Susannah Moss
Register Type: Parish Registers
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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Nov 2020 18:48

George Richardson
in the 1891 England Census
Name: George Richardson
Gender: Male
Age: 68
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1823
Child: Hannah Richardson
Edward Richardson
Birth Place: Shoreditch
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Simons Zelotes
Residence Place: Bethnal Green, London, England
Registration District: Bethnal Green
Sub registration district: Bethnal Green East
ED, Institution or Vessel: 17
Neighbors:
Piece: 272
Folio: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
George Richardson 68 - cornice pole maker
Hannah Richardson 35 - tailoress
Edward Richardson 11 - scholar

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Nov 2020 18:52

??

Deaths Jun 1907 (>99%)
RICHARDSON George 84 Bethnal G. 1c 88

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Nov 2020 18:55

George Richardson
in the 1901 England Census
Name: George Richardson
Age: 79
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bethnal Green, London, England
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Simon Zelotes
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration District: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration District: Bethnal Green, East
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors:
Piece: 295
Folio: 149
Page Number: 40
Household Schedule Number: 242
Household Members:
Name Age
George Richardson 79 - cornice pole maker
Ed Richardson 21 - son [ but must be grandson ], furniture maker

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Nov 2020 18:58

From the records posted here, I can't see that Rose/Rosa is anything whatsoever to do with George.


She may possibly be this person:


Rosa Fullbrook
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Rosa Fullbrook
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: 1853
Relation: Daughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Lambeth
Civil Parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael and All Angels
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration District: Hackney
Sub-registration District: South Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household Schedule Number: 262
Piece: 329
Folio: 27
Page Number: 47
Household Members:
Name Age
William Fullbrook 59
Ann Fullbrook 45
Rosa Fullbrook 18




William Fullbrook
in the Essex, England, Church of England Marriages, 1754-1935
Name: William Fullbrook
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 53
Birth Date: abt 1812
Marriage Place: West Ham, All Saints, Essex, England
Marriage Date: 8 Oct 1865
Father: Joseph Fullbrook
Spouse: Ann Richardson [ father - James Richardson ]


William died in 1872, and Ann remarried in 1876, to Henry Kay.