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Hi everyone,
I'm looking into my maternal great grandfather- Albert Wagstaff of Hepworth, Yorkshire. b.1870 m.02/06/1894 aged 24 to Hannah Battye of Shepley, Yorkshire aged 24. I have a lot of info on the Wagstaff's BUT my dilema is that when I got a copy of Alberts marriage cert I was surprised to read it has "John Webster" cattle dealer as his father and not "John Wagstaff" Inn keeper as I was expecting. He has 6 other siblings and is next to the youngest so i don't think it's possible he's from a previous relationship. In the Index i think I've found the right Albert Wagstaffe reg. 1870 2nd quarter in Huddersfield obviously no parents are mentioned. Could anyone shed any light as I'm wondering if I have the wrong family altogether & whether the family bloodline should be webster? Many thanks in advance all you helpful people.

According to the 1891 census Alberts father was deceased.

possible death

Deaths Mar 1884
WAGSTAFF John 43 Huddersfield 9a 193

name: John Wagstaff
age: 40
gender: Male
birth year: 1841
birthplace: Hepworth, Yorkshire, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation: Farmer Of 14 Acres And Licensed Victualler
address: Foxes
census place: Hepworth, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
disability:
record type: Household
family history library film: 1342044
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 4372 / 152
page number: 5
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head John Wagstaff M 40 Hepworth, Yorkshire, England
wife Mary Ann Wagstaff F 35 Hepworth, Yorkshire, England
son Isaac Wagstaff M 16 Hepworth, Yorkshire, England
son Fred Wagstaff M 13 Hepworth, Yorkshire, England
son Albert Wagstaff M 11 Hepworth, Yorkshire, England xxxx
son Sam Wagstaff M 9 Hepworth, Yorkshire, England
son Arthur Wagstaff M 6 Hepworth, Yorkshire, England
daughter Lily Wagstaff F 3 Hepworth, Yorkshire, England
daughter Emily Wagstaff F 1 Hepworth, Yorkshire, England

Thanks for your reply but I already have the 1881 census with these details. It's the marriage cert that's thrown me with the name, John Webster as Alberts father?!

We know you do, it's just easier for people to help if we have a picture of the family.
I see his mother did not re-marry. It's something of a puzzle isn't it! I wonder what has been put onn his siblings' marriage certs = possibly it was just an error\?
Jan

I also have Alberts father's date of death as 1884 and am not aware she remarried.

His father in 1881 occupation was:-

Farmer Of 14 Acres And Licensed Victualler ( so not just an Inn Keeper) and in 1891 his brother Isaac was a Cattle dealer so it is an occupation within the Wagstaff family. maybe as brummiejan has suggested, it may be an error.....perhaps by the clerk who filled in the register etc.

Yes i wondered too if it was an error on the m cert. I was thinking of checking up on his siblings m certs to see whether they matched alberts.

From A - the West Yorkshire record

Name: Albert Wagstaff
Birth Year: abt 1870
Age: 24
Marriage or Bann Date: 2 Jun 1894
Parish: Shepley, St Paul
Father's Name: John Webster
Spouse's Name: Hannah Battye
Spouse's Father's Name: James Battye

Isaac a witness so correct family I would say

This is Isaac's marriage

Name: Isaac Wagstaff
Birth Year: abt 1865
Age: 31
Marriage or Bann Date: 28 Nov 1896
Parish: Hepworth, Holy Trinity
Father's Name: John Wagstaff
Spouse's Name: Clara Kaye
Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph Kaye

Well spotted Moody Blue.
Just out of interest who were the witnesses? No chance of a mix-up there?
It does sound very much like an error.
Jan

Lily's marriage

Name: Lily Wagstaff
Birth Year: abt 1878
Age: 38
Marriage or Bann Date: 20 Jul 1916
Parish: Holmbridge, St David
Father's Name: John Wagstaff
Spouse's Name: John Marsh
Spouse's Father's Name: John Marsh

Witness was an Emily Battye

her sister

Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%)
BATTYE Arthur Huddersfield 9a 664
WAGSTAFF Emily Huddersfield 9a 664

Albert Wagstaff
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Wagstaff
Mother's name: Mary Ann Wagstaff
Gender: Male
Where born: Hepworth, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Hepworth
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: Foxes
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Farm Labourer

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Newmill
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4372
Folio: 152
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
John Wagstaff 40
Mary Ann Wagstaff 35
Isaac Wagstaff 16
Fred Wagstaff 13
Albert Wagstaff 11
Sam Wagstaff 9
Arthur Wagstaff 6
Lily Wagstaff 3
Emily Wagstaff 1

This is the Albert Wagstaff that married Hannah Battye witness Isaac Wagstaff

1875

Name:

Albert Wagstaff



Parish:

Penistone, St John the Baptist



Baptism Date:

14 Nov 1875



Father's Name:

John Wagstaff



Mother's name:

Mary Ann Wagstaff
On the same date together with his brother Fred
Fathers Occupaation The Foxes Inn Inn Keeper

I think there is a mistakes on the marriage cert and Webster should be Wagstaff
it would not be the first time this has happened

Everything points to it being an error!!

I thought it might be his older bro' Issac as a m. witness and it's a match with Issac's wife Clara. Didn't have her surname so cheers for that. To be sure am going to work through all the siblings and if it's Wagstaff all the way I'll assume it's an error.
Any ideas on how to get hold of his original birth cert or entry which should have his parents names?

This is the only birth that matches

Births Jun 1870 (>99%)
Wagstaffe Albert Huddersfield 9a 301

Hi Barbara,
to be sure is this Albert's baptism record, 14 Nov 1875 with John Wagstaff stated as his father?

This is Albert baptism and also his brother Fred on the same day
Father John Wagstaff of the Foxes an Inn keeper
and his mother Mary Ann

Sam and Arthur christened same day

Name:

Albert Wagstaff
Parish:

Penistone, St John the Baptist

Baptism Date:

14 Nov 1875

Father's Name:

John Wagstaff

Mother's name:

Mary Ann Wagstaff



Name:

Fred Wagstaff

Parish:

Penistone, St John the Baptist

Baptism Date:

14 Nov 1875

Father's Name:

John Wagstaff

Mother's name:

Mary Ann Wagstaff

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