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Lorraine
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27 Aug 2012 03:05 |
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Could anyone help find any information on edward andrews and family born in the bourne area. he married Harriet vine in the 1861 census there was a robert andrews "grandson " born in sleaford 1859 and in the 1871 census i have found a "grandaughter" fanny born in1870. i am also keen to find out more about george andrews 1880 -1957
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27 Aug 2012 06:45 |
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Robert born 1859 was the son of Lucy Andrews. She married Robert Porter in 1862
Marriages Jun 1862 (>99%) >>Andrews Lucy Sleaford 7a 704 Cooling Elizabeth Sleaford 7a 704 Key William Sleaford 7a 704 >>Porter Robert Sleaford 7a 704
1871 census
PORTER, Robert Head M 38 1833 Lincolnshire VIEW PORTER, Lucy Wife F 32 1839 Lincolnshire VIEW PORTER, Robert Son M 12 1859 Lincolnshire VIEW PORTER, Richard Son M 8 1863 Lincolnshire VIEW PORTER, Edward Son M 3 1868 Lincolnshire VIEW
Piece: 3352 Folio: 22 Page: 9 Registration District: Sleaford Civil Parish: Ewerby Municipal Borough: Address: Private House, Ewerby County: Lincolnshire
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27 Aug 2012 07:36 |
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For Ref is this the family.
1861 England Census about Edward Andrews Name: Edward Andrews Age: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Harriet Andrews Gender: Male Where born: Bower, Lincolnshire, England [Bourne] Civil parish: Leasingham County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Sleaford Sub-registration district: Sleaford ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 63 Piece: 2342 Folio: 82 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Edward Andrews 56 Harriet Andrews 52 James Andrews 16 Elizabeth Andrews 12 Thomas Andrews 10 Lewis Andrews 7 Robert Andrews 2 <<<<<Grandson
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27 Aug 2012 10:58 |
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1851 England Census about Edward Andrew Name: Edward Andrew Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Harriett Andrew Gender: M (Male) Where born: Bourn, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Leasingham County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Sleaford Sub-registration district: Billinghay ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 23 Piece: 2100 Folio: 279 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Edward Andrew 47 Harriett Andrew 39 Mary A Andrew 18 Sarah A Andrew 16 Edward Andrew 14 Lucy Andrew 12 Harriett Andrew 9 William V Andrew 7 James Andrew 4 Elizabeth Andrew 2 Ellen Vine 7<<<<<<< Mother In Law
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27 Aug 2012 11:00 |
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1841 England Census about Edward Andrew Name: Edward Andrew Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807 Gender: Male Where born: Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Leasingham Hundred: Flaxwell County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Sleaford Sub-registration district: Sleaford Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 620 Book: 17 Folio: 3 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Edward Andrew 34 Harriott Andrew 31 Mary Andrew 8 Sarah Andrew 7 Edward Andrew 4 Lucy Andrew 2
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Chris Ho :)
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27 Aug 2012 11:14 |
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Marriage County Lincolnshire Place Leasingham Church St Andrew RegisterNumber 57 MarriageDate 15 Feb 1832 GroomForename Edward GroomSurname ANDREWS GroomAge GroomParish Leasingham GroomCondition Bachelor GroomOccupation GroomAbode Leasingham BrideForename Harriet BrideSurname VINE BrideAge BrideParish Leasingham BrideCondition BrideOccupation BrideAbode Leasingham GroomFatherForename GroomFatherSurname GroomFatherOccupation BrideFatherForename BrideFatherSurname BrideFatherOccupation WitnessOneForename John WitnessOneSurname ANDREWS WitnessTwoForename Mary Ann WitnessTwoSurname VINE Notes 3rd witness Edwd. BLACKBOURN. Banns FileNumber 18041
(from below link, quite good for Lincs.)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
Chris :)
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Astra
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27 Aug 2012 12:00 |
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George born 1880 was the son of Thomas and Mary Andrews.
In 1891 the family are living in Brant Broughton
ANDREWS, Thomas Head Married M 39 1852 Farm Foreman Lessingham, Lincolnshire VIEW ANDREWS, Mary Wife Married F 38 1853 Holdingham, Lincolnshire VIEW ANDREWS, John Son Single M 13 1878 Day Labourer Boy Lessingham, Lincolnshire VIEW ANDREWS, George Son Single M 10 1881 Day Labourer Boy Lessingham, Lincolnshire VIEW ANDREWS, Walter Son Single M 7 1884 Scholar Lessingham, Lincolnshire VIEW ANDREWS, Bertha Daughter Single F 5 1886 Scholar Dunsby VIEW ANDREWS, Jesse Son Single M 2 1889 Anwick, Lincolnshire VIEW SMITH, Thomas Servant Single M 23 1868 Houseman Billinghay, Lincolnshire VIEW LYNN, Harry Servant Single M 18 1873 Houseman Kine, Lincolnshire VIEW
Piece: 2712 Folio: 41 Page: 20 Registration District: Newark Civil Parish: Brant Broughton Municipal Borough: Address: B Broughton Clays, Brant Broughton County: Nottinghamshire
In 1901 George and Brother John are living and working in Yorkshire
SELLARS, Margaret Head Widow F 71 1830 Lodg Ho Sheffield, Yorkshire VIEW BAGSHAW, Arthur W Grand Son Single M 19 1882 Electro Plater Sheffield, Yorkshire VIEW NORTON, Benjamin Boarder Single M 34 1867 General Labourer Sheffield, Yorkshire VIEW ANDREWS, John Boarder Single M 23 1878 General Labourer Leasingham, Lincolnshire VIEW ANDREWS, George Boarder Single M 20 1881 General Carter Leasingham, Lincolnshire VIEW
Piece: 4376 Folio: 14 Page: 20 Registration District: Sheffield Civil Parish: Brightside Bierlow Municipal Borough: Address: 22, Macro Street, Brightside Bierlow County: Yorkshire (West riding)
By 1911 he is back with his family and still single
ANDREWS, Thomas Head Married M 59 1852 Farm Labourer Leasingham VIEW ANDREWS, Mary Wife Married39 years F 58 1853 Holdingham Sleaford VIEW ANDREWS, George Son Single M 31 1880 Road Man Estate Leasingham VIEW SMITH, Hubert Grandson M 5 1906 Sleaford VIEW
RG number: RG14 Piece: 19620 Reference: RG14PN19620 RG78PN1177 RD416 SD1 ED17 SN19 Registration District: Sleaford Sub District: Billinghay Enumeration District: 17 Parish: Leasingham Address: The Square Leasingham Sleaford County: Lincolnshire
Hubert may be Bertha's son as there is a possible marriage to Joseph Smith in 1905
George may have married Ruby Kettle in 1915. She was the daughter of Reuben and Annie Kettle born 1896 Castle Bytham
Marriages Jun 1915 (>99%) Andrews George Kettle Sleaford 7a 1278
There are a possible 7 children but the dates of birth are too late to be put on here. So if you want them you can find them here using Andrews/Kettle from 1915 Lincolnshire.
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
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Lorraine
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4 Sep 2012 21:00 |
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wow thanks everyone
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Lorraine
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4 Sep 2012 21:14 |
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what i find odd about george is that he married margaret sleight who died oct 1908 my grandmother ada margaret andrews was born feb 1908 but i cant find where she was on the 1911 census nor her brother george .i think i found her elder sister ivy in dunmore Lincoln if anyone can shed any light on this it would be great
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Astra
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5 Sep 2012 06:15 |
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It looks as though Ada Margaret is with her Aunt Bertha
SHAW, Herbert Head Married M 28 1883 Farm Labourer Winceby Lincs VIEW SHAW, Bertha Wife Married4 years F 25 1886 Haddington Lincs VIEW SHAW, Elsie Daughter F 1 1910 Aubourne Lincs VIEW >>ANDREWS, Margaret Niece F 3 1908 Thornton Curtis Yorks VIEW
RG number: RG14 Piece: 19700 Reference: RG14PN19700 RD418 SD1 ED3 SN49 Registration District: Lincoln Sub District: Lincoln South West Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Address: Aubourn Lincoln County: Lincolnshire
I don't think the Ivy in Dunholme is yours as she appears to be with her father George born in Tetford in 1879. We know that your George is at home with his parents in 1911.
When and where were George and Ivy born? Do you have the marriage certificate of George to Margaret Sleight to confirm that he is the son of Edward?
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Lorraine
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6 Sep 2012 05:38 |
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Thank you so much for that information. george 1905 i believe was born in south Ormsby Ivy ? 1907 i am not sure where she was born but i assume somewhere in lincolnshire as Ada Margaret was born 1908 in glanford brigg George Andrews 1880 is the son of Thomas Andrews ansd Mary Tindall (assuming i am right) and georges grandfather was Edward 1805 who married Harriet Vine. I havent got the marriage certificate for margaret and george perhaps i ought to purchase it?
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Astra
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6 Sep 2012 07:42 |
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I can find the baptisms for George and Ada but not for Ivy?
George Henry Andrews England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 02 Jul 1905 South Ormsby,? Lincoln,? England residence: South Ormsby,? Lincoln,? England parents: George Andrews,? Margaret Elizabbeth
Ada Margaret Andrews England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 25 Feb 1908 christening: 22 Mar 1908 Thornton-?Curtis,? Lincoln,? England residence: 1908 Thornton-?Curtis,? Lincoln,? England parents: George Andrews,? Margaret Elizabeth
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Lorraine
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6 Sep 2012 12:46 |
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i found ada but not george so thats a step nearer thank you for your help
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Susan
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7 Sep 2012 04:20 |
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I know this has been looked at but it does fit all the boxes.
1911 England Census about Ivy Andrews Name: Ivy Andrews Age in 1911: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1907 Relation to Head: Niece Gender: Female Birth Place: Dunholme, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Binbrook County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address: Binbrook Mkt Rasen Lincoln Registration district: Louth Registration District Number: 421 Sub-registration district: Binbrook ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Piece: 19913 Household Members: Name Age Charles Taylor 37 Annie Maria Taylor 34 George Andrews 32 <<Brother in law<< woodman<< widow Ivy Andrews 4 <<<Niece
...................................................... Charles and Annies marriage
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1899 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrews Annie Maria Louth 7a 1473 <<<<< Garner Alfred Ernest Louth 7a 1473 Rushby Annie Louth 7a 1473 Taylor Charles Louth 7a 1473 <<<<<
................................................. England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Ivy Andrews Name: Ivy Andrews Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1906 Registration district: Lincoln Inferred County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 532
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Susan
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7 Sep 2012 05:30 |
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Just incase you are following the wrong parents for george 1880,this family seems to match the 1911 census family I posted above, with his sister Annie
1881 England Census about George Andrews Name: George Andrews Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation: Son Father's Name: Henry Andrews Mother's Name: Jane Andrews Gender: Male Where born: Tetford, Lincoln, England Civil parish: Belchford County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address: Gander Hill Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Horncastle Sub-registration district: Tetford ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3250 Folio: 51 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Henry Andrews 25 Jane Andrews 24 Anne Maria Andrews 4 George Andrews 2 Willy Andrews 1 Edit I would def purchase the marriage cert for george (bn 1880) and margaret ,it is the only way to be sure you have the correct parents .
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Susan
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7 Sep 2012 12:05 |
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Is this margarets Death Reg. Horncastle is the Reg Dis for the 1881 census posted above also .
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Margaret Elizabeth Andrews Name: Margaret Elizabeth Andrews Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1908 Age at Death: 24 Registration district: Horncastle Inferred County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 339
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Astra
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7 Sep 2012 13:29 |
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It seems more than likely that Lorraine has linked to the wrong parents for George.
Her direct relative Ada Margaret is with Bertha and Herbert Shaw but it is not Bertha Andrews which is where the confusion arises. She was Bertha Fotherby and she married Herbert Shaw in 1907. She was born in Haddington in 1886 to parents Joseph and Jane.
Marriages Jun 1907 (>99%) BRACKENBURY Alice Lincoln 7a 1155 >>FOTHERBY Bertha Jane Lincoln 7a 1155 >>SHAW Herbert Edward Lincoln 7a 1155 SMALLEY Didymua Lincoln 7a 1155 WENHAM Herbert Lincoln 7a 1155
I can't find the link to Ada Margaret being Niece at the moment.
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Astra
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7 Sep 2012 14:15 |
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Ah. Herbert had a sister Margaret E born in Asgarby in 1885.
She is with her parents as Shaw in 1891 but in 1901 she has become Sleight.I'm sure it's the same person. I wonder why??
I have to go out but will come back to this later.
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Astra
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7 Sep 2012 15:32 |
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It looks as though the whole family apart from Herbert changed their name to Sleight between 1891 and 1901
1891
SHAW, Joseph Head Married M 31 1860 Agricultural Waggoner Hundleby, Lincolnshire VIEW SHAW, Fanny M Wife Married F 28 1863 Burgh-In-The-Marsh, Lincolnshire VIEW SHAW, Herbert E Son M 8 1883 Scholar Winceby, Lincolnshire VIEW SHAW, Margaret E Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar Asgarby, Lincolnshire VIEW SHAW, Hepzaibeth Daughter F 4 1887 Asgarby, Lincolnshire VIEW
Piece: 2599 Folio: 74 Page: 6 Registration District: Horncastle Civil Parish: Scrafield Municipal Borough: Address: Scrafield County: Lincolnshire
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SLEIGHT, Joseph Head Married M 41 1860 General Lab On Farm Winceby, Lincolnshire VIEW SLEIGHT, Fanny M Wife Married F 38 1863 Burgh Le Marsh, Lincolnshire VIEW SLEIGHT, Ettie Daughter Single F 14 1887 Asgarby, Lincolnshire VIEW SLEIGHT, Walter Son M 5 1896 Mareham on Hill, Lincolnshire VIEW
Piece: 3080 Folio: 60 Page: 4 Registration District: Spilsby Civil Parish: South Ormsby cum Ketsby Municipal Borough: Address: Heath Cottages, South Ormsby Cum Ketsby, South Ormsby County: Lincolnshire
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7 Sep 2012 15:42 |
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Here we go I think.
SLIGHT, Cornelius Head Widower M 42 1819 Agricultural Labourer ..., Lincolnshire VIEW>>>>born Steeping SLIGHT, Wm Son Unmarried M 15 1846 Winceby, Lincolnshire VIEW SLIGHT, Ann Daughter F 6 1855 Warmington, Lincolnshire VIEW SLIGHT, Emma Jane Daughter F 3 1858 Tetford, Lincolnshire VIEW >>SHAW, Eliz ... Daughter Unmarried F 21 1840 House Keeper New Leake, Lincolnshire VIEW >>>She isn't noted as daughter but as servant >>SHAW, Joseph Son M 6 1855 Hundleby, Lincolnshire VIEW>>>>He is 1 on the original image
Piece: 2369 Folio: 118 Page: 4 Registration District: Horncastle Civil Parish: Winceby Municipal Borough: Address: Cottage, Winceby County: Lincolnshire
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