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1841 Census Helmsley Yorkshire

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Margaret

Margaret Report 28 Jul 2012 17:38

Could some one help me please . I am looking for William Chapman born 1796 at Hawnby,near Helmsley Yorkshire, in the 1841 Census, I think his wife was Ann, possible childrens names Robert, Barbara,William. Thank you Margaret

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Jul 2012 17:40

Hello Margaret, do you know what his occupation was?

There are two strong possibles so would help differentiate.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Jul 2012 17:43

This one's a farmer:

CHAPMAN, William M 45 1796 Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, Ann F 45 1796 Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, Robert M 20 1821 Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, Barbara F 15 1826 Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, George M 12 1829 Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, Rachel F 9 1832 Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, Ann F 7 1834 Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, David M 6 1835 Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, Henry M 3 1838 Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, John M 1 1840 Yorkshire

Piece: 1236 Book/Folio: 5/7 Page: 11
Registration District: Helmsley
Civil Parish: Hawnby

Address: Ladkill Gill, Hawnby County: Yorkshire

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 28 Jul 2012 17:47

Oh my! MarieCeleste, you really have the hiccups! Couldn't be the site acting up, could it. No, they've fixed all of the problems.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Jul 2012 17:50

Have they heck as like fixed the fault! ;-)

Deleting duplicates caused by the dreaded "error message"

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Jul 2012 17:52

This one's a huckster:

CHAPMAN, William M 45 1796 Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, Mary F 40 1801 Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, John M 15 1826 Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, William M 10 1831 Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, Mary F 7 1834 Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, Ellen F 5 1836 Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, Sarah F 2 1839 Yorkshire

Piece: 1236 Book/Folio: 3/6 Page: 7
Registration District: Helmsley
Civil Parish: Hawnby

Address: Ox Cottage, Hawnby, Bilsdale, West County: Yorkshire

Margaret

Margaret Report 28 Jul 2012 17:55

Dear Marie Celeste, Thank you, I am sure this is he, my husbands 3x gt Grandfather. Very Grateful for your help. Margaret

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Jul 2012 17:55

Children Robert, Barbara and William seem to be scattered across both families.

Margaret

Margaret Report 28 Jul 2012 17:57

Dear Marie Celeste, On looking again dates dont quite match on Robert, could you telll me who else you found please. Margaret

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Jul 2012 17:59

Margaret - they're both posted above.

Bear in mind that ages in the 1841 were usually rounded down so Robert could actually have been 20 to 25.

Do you have them for definite in the 1851?

Margaret

Margaret Report 28 Jul 2012 18:05

Marie Celeste, I think the Robert and Ann one is correct after all, no I don't have the 1851 census. Thanks again Margaret

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Jul 2012 18:20

You're welcome Margaret.

What else do you know about Robert? Can then see if there are any other records to verify. Is he the line you are following?

Margaret

Margaret Report 28 Jul 2012 19:04

Hi, I know Robert was my husbands 2xGt Grandfather,he was a shoe maker. I was trying to get further back to find his parents and Grandparents, difficult isn't it, I wanted to know Ann's (Williams wife) surname. Also I think William's father was another William,possibly married to a Mary. Thanks Margaret

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Jul 2012 19:08

Margaret, who did Robert marry? Where and when?

(It's handy to use as a reference point for us to work back from).

Margaret

Margaret Report 28 Jul 2012 19:21

Marie Celeste, Robert married about 1824 to Elizabeth Cornforth, they had two children Elizabeth Ann born 1824, and Charles (my Husbands Gt Grandfather).1844. Elizabeth died, and Robert married a Jane Haw, not sure when, but fairly quickly their first child Violetta born 1846.
Does this help at all. Margaret

Margaret

Margaret Report 28 Jul 2012 19:38

Terribly sorry Marie celeste, I have put down wrong dates Robert married Elizabeth 1842, Elizabeth Ann born 1843 Charles 1844

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Jul 2012 19:49

Just posting 1851 as a reference:

CHAPMAN, Robart Head Married M 32 1819 Showmaker Hawnby, Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, Jane Wife Married F 28 1823 Boltby, Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, Ann Daughter F 8 1843 Hawnby, Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, William Son M 2 1849 Hawnby, Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, Vilot Daughter F 5 1846 Hawnby, Yorkshire
TAYLOR, Elizabath Niece F 13 1838 Knaton, Yorkshire
ABBOTT, Frances Aprentice Unmarried M 19 1832 Show Maker Apprentice Hawnby, Yorkshire

Piece: 2372 Folio: 19 Page: 6
Registration District: Helmsley

Address: Crow Nest County: Yorkshire (North riding)

There doesn't seem to be a Charles with them?

Margaret

Margaret Report 28 Jul 2012 19:57

I believe Charles spent some time with his step Grandparents, and he eventually moved away first to Newcastle where he became a journalist. thenmoved to Barnard Castle Yorkshire, where he married.
Thank You Margaret

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Jul 2012 21:01

Not sure if Hawes is near Hawnby?

England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

name: Robert Calvert Chapman
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 17 Mar 1823
baptism/christening place: HAWES,YORK,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: William Chapman
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Ann
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C10192-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 207540
reference number:

Source Citation
"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JS1N-T7Q : accessed 28 July 2012), Robert Calvert Chapman, 1823.

EDIT: Perhaps not, I think Hawes and Hawnby are about 50 miles apart from Google.

Margaret

Margaret Report 28 Jul 2012 21:48

I don't think so, they are a distant away, and I have heard the name calvert in the Family. Will look though. Thanks Margaret