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Sonya

Sonya Report 25 May 2012 19:20

I am trying to find a connection between these two families... Robert Jackson Towne (married to Sarah nee Jarrett) has two young Gimlett children William and Sarah as nephew and niece and later another sibling Kate Gimlett also niece living with him. He later on death of his wife marries niece Sarah Ann Gimlett in 1885.
I am unable to see a family member who could be their parent (William 1827 father) connected to the Towne family.Robert Towne had a sister Eliza and a brother John.
Please does anyone feel able to tackle this? I am nowhere. Sonya

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 25 May 2012 19:44

Could they have been Sarah's niece and nephew rather than Robert's?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 25 May 2012 19:52

But didn't he marry Sarah Joseph?

Marriages Mar 1855 (>99%)
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ARNOLD William Gravesend 2a 254
JOSEPH Sarah Gravesend 2a 254
MILLS Elizabeth Gravesend 2a 254
TOWNE Robert Jackson Gravesend 2a 254

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 25 May 2012 19:56

The marriage to Sarah Ann Gimlett gives her father's name as William Gimlett.

Barry

Barry Report 25 May 2012 19:56

According an Ancestry tree they are siblings of Robert's 2nd wife Sarah born 1861

William b1857
Eliza b 1865
Kate b1865
John b1854
Martha b1859
Edmund b 1869

Father William Gimlett b 1827

patchem

patchem Report 25 May 2012 20:02

Just for reference (wife quite a bit older):
1861 England Census
Robert J Towne
Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Towne
Gender: Male Where born: Southwark, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Clerkenwell Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration district: Clerkenwell Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 105 Piece: 190 Folio: 10 Page Number: 20

Robert J Towne 33
Sarah Towne 42
Maria Jeset 29
Catherine George 18
Mary Munlol 19
James Cadell 18

Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 190; Folio: 10; Page: 20; GSU roll: 542589.

patchem

patchem Report 25 May 2012 20:06

Nephew William from 1871 in 1861:
1861 Wales Census
William Gimlett
Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Gimlett
Mother's Name: Mary Gimlett
Gender: Male Where born: Ebbw Vale, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Bedwellty Ecclesiastical parish: Tredegar
Town: Ebbw Vale County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales
Registration district: Bedwelty Sub-registration district: Tredegar
ED, institution, or vessel: 46 Household schedule number: 104 Piece: 4005 Folio: 26 Page Number: 14

William Gimlett 34
Mary Gimlett 30
John Gimlett 7
William Gimlett 4
Martha Gimlett 2
Sarah Gimlett 2/12
James Gimlett 69
Mary Thomas 17
James Thomas 23

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 4005; Folio: 26; Page: 14; GSU roll: 543220.

Sonya

Sonya Report 25 May 2012 20:07

I know they were siblings of second wife Sarah Ann Gimlett...but she and her sibling William were living with Robert J Towne and his first wife Sarah (born Jarrett then married Thomas Joseph1840 who died ) married Robert 1855. The niece then married Robert when his first wife died. I want to find how their father or mother is connected to Robert Towne to make them niece and nephew.!

patchem

patchem Report 25 May 2012 20:13

Either William Gimlett or Mary Gimlett is a brother or sister of Robert Towne or Mary Towne?

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Marriages Sep 1851
Bedford William Abergavenny 26 9
Davies Margaret Abergavenny 26 9
Davies Mary Abergavenny 26 9
GIMBLETT William Abergavenny 26 9
GIMLETT William Abergavenny 26 9
JAMES Mary Abergavenny 26 9
Price Thomas Abergavenny 26 9
THOMAS James Abergavenny 26 9
Tiley Elizabeth Abergavenny 26 9

Sonya

Sonya Report 25 May 2012 20:16

Just a thought. I think.....the father of william , Sarah etc ..William gimlett lost his first wife Mary when he was 24 and childless. He remarried Margaret and she is actually the mother of these children. Sorry if this is a mess. sonya

patchem

patchem Report 25 May 2012 20:18

Have you got all the marriage certificates for Fathers' names?

Added:
Marriages Mar 1840
JARRETT Sarah Abergavenny 26 48
JOSEHH Thomas Abergavenny 26 48

patchem

patchem Report 25 May 2012 20:57

Do you know what happened to Rachel and John.
'Nephew' and 'niece' might be used to describe a very loose connection..
1841 Wales Census
Sarah Joseph
Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Female
Where born: Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil parish: Bedwelty
Hundred: Wentllooge (Lower Division)
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Registration district: Abergavenny Sub-registration district: Tredegar
Piece: 750 Book: 7 Folio: 42 Page Number: 1

Thomas Joseph 30
Sarah Joseph 20
Rachel Joseph 9
John Joseph 5 Mo

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 750; Book: 7; Civil Parish: Bedwelty; County: Monmouthshire; Enumeration District: 16; Folio: 42; Page: 1; Line: 11; GSU roll: 438846.

Sonya

Sonya Report 25 May 2012 21:35

Perhaps see who Rachel Joseph married..she was daughter of Thomas Joseph prior to marriage to Sarah Jarrett...1832 I think. If she married a Gimlett that would do it. Worth a shot.

Vera2010

Vera2010 Report 25 May 2012 23:59

I wondered if Mary Gimlett was perhaps the sister of Robert J's first wife, Sarah. Sarah was born in Monmouthshire as were Mary, William and Sarah Ann. However, cannot find a marrisge for a William Gimlett and a Mary Jarrett
unless she was previously married..

On the 1851 census William aged 24 widowed is with father James also widowed lodging in Bedwelty. Following that marriage William marries Mary and then when she dies he marries Margaret. Kate is the daughter of William and wife Margaret. She was born in Swindon.

Vera

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 May 2012 09:10

Sonya

You gave no location info in your request - nor did you give any birth years.

For future reference, these pieces of info are vital

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 May 2012 09:11

Name: Kate Coslett Gimlett
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1871
Registration district: Highwood
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 14

1891
Name: Kate Gimlett
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Gimlett
Mother's Name: Margaret Gimlett
Gender: Female
Where born: Swindon, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Risca
Ecclesiastical parish: Risca
Town: Risca
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Newport
Sub-registration district: St Woollos
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4379
Folio: 166
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
William Gimlett 64 born Ebbw Vale
Margaret Gimlett 62
Eliza Gimlett 26
Kate Gimlett 19

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 May 2012 09:16

1861

Name: Mary Gimlett
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Gimlett
Gender: Female
Where born: Merthyr, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Bedwellty
Ecclesiastical parish: Tredegar
Town: Ebbw Vale
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Bedwelty
Sub-registration district: Tredegar
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Household schedule number: 104
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4005
Folio: 26
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
William Gimlett 34
Mary Gimlett 30
John Gimlett 7
William Gimlett 4
Martha Gimlett 2
Sarah Gimlett 2/12
James Gimlett 69 Father, b. Pentyrch
Mary Thomas 17
James Thomas 23

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 May 2012 09:18

Marriages Mar 1877 (>99%)
Bridgeman Emily Jane L Highworth 5a 26
Gimlett William Highworth 5a 26 ****************
James Isaac Highworth 5a 26
Waters Margaret Highworth 5a 26 ***************


Marriages Sep 1851 (>99%)
Bedford William Abergavenny 26 9
Davies Margaret Abergavenny 26 9
Davies Mary Abergavenny 26 9
GIMBLETT William Abergavenny 26 9
GIMLETT William Abergavenny 26 9
JAMES Mary Abergavenny 26 9
Price Thomas Abergavenny 26 9
THOMAS James Abergavenny 26 9
Tiley Elizabeth Abergavenny 26 9

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 May 2012 09:24

Probate of William's Will was granted to Robert Jackson Towne, gentleman, and Edmund Coslett Gimlett, wine merchant 18 Feb 1897

Effects £1739 19s 7d

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 May 2012 09:34

You say that William's first marriage was 'childless' - the records appear to show otherwise

He didn't marry Margaret until 1877