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Mary Jane died of a 'sudden syncope (heart attack), disease of the liver and lungs. Intemperate habits'

This was the reply I had from The National Children's Home Archivist in 2006

'I regret that the indexes to William Bradfield's The Life of the Revd T B
Stephenson (1913) and to the histories of NCH written by Cecil F
Walpolethe and published in the 1940s do not include the name of Thacker.

It is just possible that Francis Horner's Shadow and Sun (1920), a
narrative account of the early days of the Home by one of its co-founders,
makes a reference but unfortunately there is no index ! (As you know, we
hold copies of these books her, ref. D541/D3/4 for Mr Horner's work.)

I had a look at the London section of the annual reports for c. 1881 and
did not notice the name of Thacker.

It is just possible that there is a reference in the minutes of the General
Committee (1869 onwards) and / or of the Finance Sub-Committee (1878 - 81 and 1894 onwards) but I think NCH would have to give consent so that she could herself consult such records here to see if anything is to be found.'

I haven't followed this up yet. I am concentrating at the moment on finding more about Walter Thacker for my mother (her father).

The Founder and Principal of the Home was a Rev. Thomas Bowman Stephenson...(quite a bit on google) perhaps he knew Thomas Thacker!.

Chris :)


1891

GORTON, Chester M Head Married M 69 1822 Perfumer
New York
U S A
GORTON, Nancy Wife Married F 45 1846
London V
WALLER, Jas Servant Single M 28 1863 General Servant
Hertfordshire
Piece:
167 Folio:
114 Page:
42 Registration District:
Islington
Civil Parish:
Islington Municipal Borough:
Address:
397, City Road, Islington, London County:
London

(she was a Housekeeper to above for 3 years)

Thank you all so much! You are all so good at this.

I have 'googled' Thomas, Mary Jane and Walter over the years to no avail. I just wonder why it was in the news in North Yorkshire. She died in London. She worked in the Children's home.

(Yes, you apply to join, and they send a pin number)

or, if you have credits for GR Records, it's on their British Newspaper Archive too...as below (sorry, can't help there)


Daily Gazette for MiddlesbroughNorth Yorkshire, England1 Dec 1888
SAD DEATH OF A CLERGYMAN'S WIFE Jane Thacker, aged 37, described as the wife of the Key. T. W. Thacker, a clergyman at Birkenhead. It seemed that the deceased had been separated from her husband for nine years, aud during the past three years was housekeeper to Mr W. J. C. A. Gort

No mention of children, but a John Pendell, secretary to Bonner Road Childrens Home, knew her from 8 years ago...

(also, if you google his name, 2 old queries come up, not sure if you)

Chris :)

Chris,

I haven't seen the newspaper articles. I am so excited. Anything to help with their story. I wish I had asked for help earlier - thank you.

Do they give any other details about their children? How do I access the information? Not sure what to do on the link you gave me. Do i apply to join the library?

I have Mary Jane and Thomas's marriage certificate and her death certificate. I knew their must be a newspaper report on the inquest but that would have been in London.

LOCAL NEWS .
Liverpool Mercury etc (Liverpool, England), Saturday, December 1, 1888; Issue 12760.

SAD DEATH OF A CLERGYMAN'S WIFE .
The North-Eastern Daily Gazette (Middlesbrough, England), Saturday, December 01, 1888

(have you seen the Newspaper articles, relating to inquest of Mary Jane, says they had been separated nine years)

Chris :)


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1232629

(above link for Newpapers, Free to join!, the Marriage is in there too)

Do you have a Marriage for Thomas and Mary Jane?...

(although too late for 1881 census, but what was address on birth Cert.)

Chris :)

Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%)
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ASHE Mary Jane Birkenhead 8a 602
THACKER Thomas Birkenhead 8a 602


1871

THACKER, Thomas Head M 26 1845 Warwickshire (Chaplain to the ??? Church, Birkenhead)
THACKER, Mary Jane Wife F 20 1851 Isle of Man
Piece:
3745 Folio:
188 Page:
31 Registration District:
Birkenhead
Civil Parish:
Birkenhead Municipal Borough:
Address:
Conway Street, Birkenhead County:
Cheshire


1891

THACKER, Thomas Lodger Widower M 47 1844 Clerk In Holy Orders
Birmingham
Warwickshire
Piece:
2886 Folio:
104 Page:
26 Registration District:
Birkenhead
Civil Parish:
Birkenhead Municipal Borough:
Birkenhead Address:
58, Brassey Street, Birkenhead County:
Cheshire

Uncle was Samuel Thacker b, ab 1839 living at 4 Morpeth Grove in 1901 Leeds (Brunswick Ward)

Hi Catherine,
Please could I have the uncles name and details?

Regards Vera

Hi Vera,

So this is Yorkshire. His uncle lived in Leeds. This could be him. There were dressmakers in the family so there could have been links there.

Thank you.

1901

Thought I would show you this one????


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WILSON, Joseph Head Widower M 44 1857 Tailor & Costumier
Carlisle
Cumberland VIEW
WILSON, Edith Daughter Single F 21 1880
Lincolnshire VIEW
>>>>>THACKEY, Walter Herbert Visitor Single M 19 1882 Warehouse Porter
Hackney
London VIEW

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Piece:
4100 Folio:
118 Page:
20 Registration District:
Huddersfield

Civil Parish:
Almondbury Municipal Borough:
Address:
1, Newsome Road, Almondbury County:
Yorkshire (West riding)



Regards Vera

MARY JANE ASH Pedigree
Female
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 30 JUN 1850 Saint George, Douglas, Isle Of Man, England
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Parents:
Father: JAMES ASH Family
Mother: SARAH MARIA
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Yes that's the right family.

????

Thomas Thacker Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: 1845 Birmingham, Warwick, England
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Parents:
Father: John Thacker Family
Mother: Mrs Mary Ann Thacker

Yes - registered as Walter Herbert.

????

THOMAS THACKER Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: 20 JAN 1842

Christening: 10 NOV 1845 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England
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Parents:
Father: THOMAS THACKER Family
Mother: ELLEN
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Is his birth registered as Walter Herbert ?

Births Jun 1881 (>99%)
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THACKER Walter Herbert Holborn 1b 794



So too late to be on 1881 census

Parents were Thomas Thacker b 1844 Birmingham and Mary Jane Ashe b 1851 in Isle of man. Thomas is on his own on the 1891 census.

and his parents names?