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12 Mar 2012 21:28 |
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I am helping a friend trace her great grandfather whom she believes was adopted.
I have found him on the census records but don't have a subscription.
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Alfred Sanders Jacobs born c1890 who was married to Ella Ann Wishmire. I can see a marriage in Indiana and them living in Michigan. Would love to get more details as to where he was born, etc.
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Rose
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12 Mar 2012 21:34 |
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California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Alfred Sanders Jacobs Social Security #: 362207172 Sex: Male Birth Date: 20 Jan 1888 Birthplace: Indiana Death Date: 10 Jan 1956 Death Place: Los Angeles Father's Surname: Jacobs
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12 Mar 2012 21:35 |
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Groom's Name: Alfred Jacobs Groom's Birth Date: Groom's Birthplace: Groom's Age: Bride's Name: Ella Wishmire Bride's Birth Date: Bride's Birthplace: Bride's Age: Marriage Date: 28 Jun 1910 Marriage Place: Marion, Indiana Groom's Father's Name: Frank Jacobs Groom's Mother's Name: Mary Willson Bride's Father's Name: George Wishmire Bride's Mother's Name: Ella Parker Groom's Race: Groom's Marital Status: Groom's Previous Wife's Name: Bride's Race: Bride's Marital Status: Bride's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01305-9 System Origin: Indiana-EASy Source Film Number: 499394 Reference Number: no 57, p314
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12 Mar 2012 21:35 |
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1930 United States Federal Census about Alfred S Jacobs Name: Alfred S Jacobs Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1890 Birthplace: Indiana Race: White Home in 1930: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan View Map Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Ella A Jacobs Father's Birthplace: Indiana Mother's Birthplace: Indiana Occupation:
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Parents' birthplace: View image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alfred S Jacobs 40 Ella A Jacobs 36 Illinois Jewell M Jacobs 13 Michigan
1920 United States Federal Census about Alford S Jacob Name: Alford S Jacob Age: 30 Birth Year: abt 1890 Birthplace: Indiana Home in 1920: Detroit Ward 10, Wayne, Michigan Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Ella Jacob Father's Birthplace: Indiana Mother's Birthplace: Indiana Home Owned: Rent Able to Read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alford S Jacob 30 Ella Jacob 26 Jewell Jacob 3 [3 8/12]
1910 United States Federal Census about Alford Jacobs Name: Alford Jacobs [Alfred Jacobs] Age in 1910: 20 Birth Year: 1890 Birthplace: Indiana Home in 1910: Indianapolis Ward 7, Marion, Indiana Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Lodger Marital Status: Single Father's Birthplace: Pennsylvania Mother's Birthplace: Indiana Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ella Wishmins 48 Elfa Wishmins 16 Alford Jacobs 20 Cy A Frakes 38 Etta E Houk 49 Mary E Young 33 Ruth E Nicholson 16
1900 United States Federal Census about Alford Jacobs Name: Alford Jacobs Age: 11 Birth Date: May 1889 Birthplace: Indiana Home in 1900: Center, Marion, Indiana [Marion] Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Son Marital Status: Single Father's Name: Frank Jacobs Father's Birthplace: Pennsylvania Mother's Birthplace: Indiana Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Frank Jacobs 37 Alford Jacobs 11 James Jacobs 39 Sarah Jacobs 46
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12 Mar 2012 21:37 |
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1930 United States Federal Census about Alfred S Jacobs Name: Alfred S Jacobs Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1890 Birthplace: Indiana Race: White Home in 1930: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan View Map Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Ella A Jacobs Father's Birthplace: Indiana Mother's Birthplace: Indiana Occupation:
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View image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alfred S Jacobs 40 Electrical Engineer Ella A Jacobs 36 Jewell M Jacobs 13
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12 Mar 2012 21:40 |
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World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Alfred Sandus Jacobs Name: Alfred Sandus Jacobs City: Detroit County: Wayne State: Michigan Birthplace: Indiana;United States of America Birth Date: 23 May 1889 Race: Caucasian (White) FHL Roll Number: 2032677 DraftBoard: 25
He was an electrician, born Lebaum, Indiana.
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12 Mar 2012 21:44 |
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Thanks everyone.
Birth date is all over the place but that looks to be him.
Is Frank widowed in 1900?
Rose
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12 Mar 2012 21:44 |
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1910 United States Federal Census about Alferd S Jacobe Name: Alferd S Jacobe [Alferd S Jacobi] [Alferd S Jacobs] Age in 1910: 20 Birth Year: 1890 Birthplace: Indiana Home in 1910: Greenville, Floyd, Indiana Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Son Marital Status: Single Father's Name: Jacob Jacobe Father's Birthplace: Germany Mother's Name: Laura Jacobe Mother's Birthplace: Indiana Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Jacob Jacobe 61 Laura Jacobe 52 William Jacobe 35 Alferd S Jacobe 20 Ruth Jacobe 19 [17] Arthur Jacobe 15 View Original Record
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12 Mar 2012 21:47 |
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This birth tallies with the California death record, and the father's name on the 1900:
Indiana Births, 1880-1920 about Jacobs Name: Jacobs Father: Frank Mother: Mary Shulmire County: Boone Gender: Male Birth Date: 20 Jan 1888 Reference: Boone County, Indiana Index to Birth Records 1882 - 1920 Inclusive Volume I Letters A - K Inclusive Book: R-2 Page: 141
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12 Mar 2012 21:52 |
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Yes Frank is widowed in 1900. He is a day labourer.
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12 Mar 2012 21:56 |
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That's great.
Doesn't look like he was adopted at birth then. Perhaps the Wishmire's took him in as he is living with them in 1910, and that's where the "adoption" story came from.
Rose
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12 Mar 2012 21:57 |
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California Death Index, 1940-1997 about Ella A Jacobs Name: Ella A Jacobs Social Security #: 370229529 Sex: Female Birth Date: 24 Aug 1893 Birthplace: Illinois Death Date: 30 Apr 1974 Death Place: Alameda
Social Security Death Index about Ella Jacobs Name: Ella Jacobs SSN: 370-22-9529 Last Residence: 94618 Oakland, Alameda, California, United States of America Born: 24 Aug 1893 Died: Apr 1974 State (Year) SSN issued: Michigan (Before 1951)
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13 Mar 2012 01:52 |
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Thanks.
I can see 2 other female Indiana births with the Jacobs surname and Shul*mire for the MMN. Are there any more details available? Trying to figure out when Mary died.
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Rose
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13 Mar 2012 02:54 |
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I'm also concerned there are 2 birth dates listed: 20 Jan 1888 and 23 May 1889
Who is the mother for the child born 23 May 1889?
Rose
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13 Mar 2012 05:42 |
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Magnify 4 clocks, then save image
http://www.archive.org/stream/12thcensusofpopu389unit#page/n953/mode/1up http://www.archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po368unit#page/n42/mode/1up [addy=721 North New Jersey St, Center Twp] http://www.archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu809unit#page/n708/mode/1up [addy=779, Wabash Ave, Detroit] http://www.archive.org/stream/michigancensus00reel1057#page/n848/mode/1up [addy=7044 Senator Ave]
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13 Mar 2012 19:12 |
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Thanks MGNV.
Rose
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13 Mar 2012 19:27 |
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Also share Rose's concern about varying birth dates - think there's a few loose ends to tidy up.
Where does the middle name of Sanders come from - it's not on the marriage record?
Meanwhile, here's some further info from that WW1 draft registration, in case it's relevant later:
The draft registration was dated 5 June 1917 and at that time he was living at 149 Casper Street, Detroit, MI. He had a wife and 1 child (neither named). His employer was the Michigan Dodge Bus Manufacturing Co (can't make out the town, but it's in Michigan).
He wanted exemption on the grounds of dependants (doesn't say if it was granted).
He was of medium height and build, had blue eyes, brown hair and wasn't bald.
** The other thing is that on the marriage record the mother's name is Mary Willson, whereas on that birth record the surname is Shulmire. Perhaps she married twice?
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13 Mar 2012 19:42 |
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Think this might be the answer to the birthdate confusion - I think someone may have told him his sister's birthdate was his!
Indiana Births, 1880-1920 Name: Jacobs Father: Frank Mother: Emma Shulmire << just to confuse things! County: Boone Gender: Female Birth Date: 23 May 1889 << Reference: Boone County, Indiana Index to Birth Records 1882 - 1920 Inclusive Volume I Letters A - K Inclusive Book: R-25 Page: 25
this is the other one:
Indiana Births, 1880-1920 Name: Jacobs Father: Frank Mother: Mary Schulmyer County: Boone Gender: Female Birth Date: 15 Dec 1891 Reference: Boone County, Indiana Index to Birth Records 1882 - 1920 Inclusive Volume I Letters A - K Inclusive Book: R-25 Page: 44
Might be understandable how confusion arose if they didn't record first names.
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13 Mar 2012 19:49 |
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Thanks MarieCeleste. I think that clears up the confusion.
He must have 2 sisters but who knows what their names were?
Rose
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13 Mar 2012 19:53 |
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At first I thought this might have been Mary's death, given that Emma was used on one of the birth records above. But the death date doesn't tie in with a child born Dec 1891 and Frank saying he was a widower in 1900. Will still leave here, even if for elimination.
Indiana Deaths, 1882-1920
Name: Mary E. Jacobs Date: 16 Mar 1901 Location: Washington Age: 35 Yr Gender: Female Race: White Source Location: City Health Office Washington, Indiana Source notes: The source of this record is the book H-18 on page 37 within the series produced by the Indiana Works Progress Administration.
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