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Is this the same man??

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RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 8 Mar 2012 15:23

I am helping someone do their family history and have come across this man:
Thomas William Norledge born 1863 Newark, Nottinghamshire, parents are George Joseph Norledge and Fanny Walsham Scoffings. Joseph was a letter carrier and Postman.
In 1881 Thomas Norledge is with his parents age 18, occ Fruitiers Assistant.

The only other references I can come up with are for a Rev T W Norledge, a Baptist missionary. Date of birth and place of birth are the same. Rev T W Norledge is on a few incoming passenger lists returning from India.

This is the Rev Norledge in 1901
Name: Thomas W Norledgre (mistranscribed)
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Cousin V (Cousin)
Gender: Male
Where born: Newark, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Ruislip
Ecclesiastical parish: Northwood Holy Trinity
Town: Northwood
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Household Members:
Sophie D Fry 63
Clarence E Fry 35
Carrie Fry 39
Baby Fry Under 1 Month

Thomas W Norledgre 37
Elina A P Norledgre 37

Fannie Lashbrook 37
Sarah Knight 18
Mary J Brown 46
Kenah Brown 22
Lily Edwards 29.

The Fry family is the Quaker Fry family who are quite well known. I have ascertained that it is Elina A P Norledge is the cousin of Sophie Fry, both their maiden names are Prideaux.

As I don’t like to assume anything, how can I prove that this man is the same as the one with the humble beginnings in Newark?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Mar 2012 15:54

Did Thomas marry in the UK?

Father's name etc. should be on the cert

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 8 Mar 2012 15:58

Can't find a marriage so I am thinking this Rev Norledge may have married in India. Elina Prideaux was also a missionary in India

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Mar 2012 16:24

It says on that 1901 census that he is a Baptist Missionary - Baptist, I think is different from Quaker.

EDIT

A tree on Ancestry has your Thomas's death as 1925.

this one?

Deaths Jun 1925 Norledge Thomas W 61 Croydon 2a 319

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 Mar 2012 16:43

1881

George J. NORLEDGE Head M Male 43 Newark, Nottingham, England Letter Carrier C S Mess
Fanny W. NORLEDGE Wife M Female 42 Marnham, Nottingham, England Dressmaker
Thomas W. NORLEDGE Son Male 17 Newark, Nottingham, England Fruiterers Assist
John G. NORLEDGE Son Male 15 Newark, Nottingham, England Gen Porter
Charlotte NORLEDGE Daur Female 12 Newark, Nottingham, England Scholar
Joseph R. NORLEDGE Son Male 5 Newark, Nottingham, England Scholar
Albert E. NORLEDGE Son Male 10 m Newark, Nottingham, England Infant


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Source Information:
Dwelling Eldon St
Census Place Newark Upon Trent, Nottingham, England
Family History Library Film 1341807
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3375 / 36
Page Number 24

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 Mar 2012 16:45

Thomas W Norledge
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1864 Newark,? Nottinghamshire,? England
census: 1881 Newark Upon Trent,? Nottinghamshire,? England
parents: George J Norledge,? Fanny W Norledge


name: Thomas W Norledge
age: 17
gender: Male
birth year: 1864
birthplace: Newark, Nottinghamshire, England
relationship to head of household: Son
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation: Fruiterers Assist
address: Eldon St
census place: Newark Upon Trent, Nottinghamshire, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341807
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 3375 / 36
page number: 24

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 Mar 2012 16:48

name: Thomas Norledge
gender: Male
birth: of,Jessore,Bengal,India
AFN: 3BC5-LK7

Marriages (1)
spouse: Elina Anstis Prideaux (AFN: 3BC5-8XR )
marriage: 16 JAN 1896
,Muttra,Uttar Pradesh,India

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 Mar 2012 16:50

Elina Anstis Prideaux Compact Disc #6 Pin #53969 Pedigree
Sex: F

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Event(s)
Birth: 25 Aug 1863

,Wellington,Somersetshire,England

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Parents
Father: Francis Robert Prideaux Disc #6 Pin #53964
Mother: Emily Anstis Bury Disc #6 Pin #53965

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Thomas Norledge Disc #6 Pin #53977
Marriage: 16 Jan 1896
,Muttra,Uttar Pradesh,India

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 Mar 2012 16:51

name: Elina Anstis Prideaux
gender: Female
birth: 25 AUG 1863
,Wellington,Somersetshire,England
AFN: 3BC5-8XR

Parents
father: Francis Robert Prideaux (AFN: 3BC5-0HP )
mother: Emily Anstis Bury (AFN: 3BC5-2N3 )

Marriages (1)
spouse: Thomas Norledge (AFN: 3BC5-LK7 )
marriage: 16 JAN 1896
,Muttra,Uttar Pradesh,India

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 Mar 2012 17:00

Fanny W Scoffings
England and Wales Census, 1861
birth: 1839 Marnham,? Nottinghamshire
census: 1861 Newark Upon Trent,? Newark,? Nottinghamshire,? England


name: Fanny W Scoffings
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Female
age: 22
relationship to head of household: Boarder
birthplace: Marnham, Nottinghamshire
record type: Household
registration district: Newark
sub-district: 3 Newark
ecclesiastical parish: St Marys
civil parish: Newark Upon Trent
county: Nottinghamshire

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 8 Mar 2012 17:05

Ann you have been very busy while I have been having a cup of tea. Thank for all that. Where did you find the marriage please?

I have a feeling it is the same man but without a marriage cert it is not proven.

I have seen that tree on Ancestry but there is no proof that it is the same man

Thanks all Jennifer

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 8 Mar 2012 17:14

ah I have just noticed one of Ann's posts, says born India.

name: Thomas Norledge
gender: Male
birth: of,Jessore,Bengal,India
AFN: 3BC5-LK7

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 Mar 2012 17:16

all from the free Mormon LDS site - www.familysearch.org

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 8 Mar 2012 17:21

Found it Ann thanks. It is a submitted file so though I think the marriage is correct I am not sure about the birth place

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 Mar 2012 17:33

Thomas Norledge Compact Disc #6 Pin #53977 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth:

of,Jessore,Bengal,India

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Parents

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Elina Anstis Prideaux Disc #6 Pin #53969
Marriage: 16 Jan 1896
,Muttra,Uttar Pradesh,India


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Personal Information
Title:
Reverend


Submitter
Landed Gentry
c/o Medieval Families Unit, 50 E North Temple St, Salt Lake City, UT 84150

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 Mar 2012 17:34

Thomas Norledge Compact Disc #6 Pin #53977 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth:

of,Jessore,Bengal,India

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Parents

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Elina Anstis Prideaux Disc #6 Pin #53969
Marriage: 16 Jan 1896
,Muttra,Uttar Pradesh,India


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Personal Information
Title:
Reverend

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Notes and Sources
Notes: Available on CD-ROM Disc# 6
Sources: None

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Submitter
Landed Gentry
c/o Medieval Families Unit, 50 E North Temple St, Salt Lake City, UT 84150

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 Mar 2012 17:43

Did you try googling his name?
This came up:

Elina Anstis, bom at Wellington
35 August 1863 ; marr. at Muttra,
India, 16 January 1896, Rev.
Thomas Norledge of Jessore,
India.

From this site:


http://www.archive.org/stream/
visitationengla01armsgoog/visitationengla01armsgoog_djvu.txt

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 Mar 2012 17:50

According to this:

http://histfam.familysearch.org/familygroup.php?familyID=F70890&tree=Nixon

She was Elina Anstis Prideaux, born 25 Aug.1863, daughter of Francis Robert Prideaux and Emily Anstis Bury.

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 8 Mar 2012 17:56

Yes I have googled his name and found some references to him. The 1901 census says he was born Newark but he must have been out of the country for other census returns,.

Still can't prove that my T Norledge who was a fruitier's assistant in 1881 became a Missionary and married Elina Prideaux.

Thanks for all your help, have to log off now till tomorrow

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 8 Mar 2012 21:08


Ellie Prideaux Norledge

India Deaths and Burials, 1719-1948
birth: 1864
death: 20 May 1908
burial: 20 May 1908 Calcutta,? Bengal,? India
spouse: Thomas William Norledge