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Patrick Lally born abt 1851 in Ireland, know he was married to Margaret but desperate to know any other info on the pair. Epsecially where in Ireland they came from xxx

Where did they end up?


Ozi

So is this your Patrick & Margaret?

1911 England Census
Name: Patrick Lally
Age in 1911: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Galway, Ireland
Civil parish: Jarrow
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: 7 Frederick St, Jarrow On Tyne England

Marital Status: Married

Occupation: Brick Labourer

Registration district: South Shields
Registration District Number: 556
Sub-registration district: Jarrow
Piece: 30356
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Lally 60
Margaret Lally 54 - Galway, Ireland
Mary Lally 30 - Galway, Ireland
John Lally 28
Willie Lally 15
Peter Lally 9
Nora Lally 18
Patrick Lally 12
Micheal Lally 29 - Jarrow, Durham
Maggie Lally 22

32 years married. 8 children born to the marriage, all living.

Their son Thomas was born abt 1886 in Jarrow, Co Durham

how about these?

1881

Patrick LALLY Head M Male 29 Ireland Blast Furnace Labourer (Iron)
Margaret LALLY Wife M Female 24 Ireland
Mary LALLY Daur U Female 2 Ireland
Michael LALLY Son U Male 9 m Durham, England
Birtley BURK Father In Law W Male 60 Ireland
Michael BURK Bro In Law Male 26 Ireland Brick Layers Labourer


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Source Information:
Dwelling 26 Stanley St
Census Place Hedworth Monkton & Jarrow, Durham, England
Family History Library Film 1342209
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5021 / 124
Page Number 25

Did they live in Durham ????

1871 England Census about Patrick Lally

Name:Patrick Lally
Age:23
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1848
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Margaret Lally
Gender:Male
Where born:Ireland

Civil parish:Wolsingham
Town:Wolsingham
County/Island:Durham
Country:England
Registration district:Weardale
Sub-registration district:Wolsingham
ED, institution, or vessel:2
Household schedule number:17
Piece:4952
Folio:30
Page Number:4
Household Members:
Name Age
Patrick Lally 23
Margaret Lally 19
Mary J Lally 2 Months
Thomas H Blackett 67
John Odonell 50



1881 England Census about Patrick Lally

Name:Patrick Lally
Age:34
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1847
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Margaret Lally
Gender:Male
Where born:Ireland
Civil parish:Wolsingham
County/Island:Durham
Country:England
Street Address:Upper Town
Condition as to marriage:Married
Occupation:Road Labourer

Registration district:Weardale
Sub-registration district:Wolsingham
ED, institution, or vessel:1

Piece:4939
Folio:19
Page Number:31
Household Members:
Name Age
Patrick Lally 34
Margaret Lally 30
Thos. Lally 8 - (there is a son Thomas but this one is too young, he was born in 1873)
Mary J. Lally 6
Margaret Lally 4
Catherine Lally 1
Robt. Diew 59

???

1881


Patrick LALLY Head M Male 34 Ireland Road Labourer
Margaret LALLY Wife M Female 30 Newcastle, Northumberland, England
Thos. LALLY Son Male 8 Wolsingham, Durham, England Scholar
Mary J. LALLY Daur Female 6 Wolsingham, Durham, England Scholar
Margaret LALLY Daur Female 4 Wolsingham, Durham, England
Catherine LALLY Daur Female 1 Wolsingham, Durham, England
Robt. DIEW Lodger Male 59 Otton Betcham, Essex, England Gen Labour


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Source Information:
Dwelling Upper Town
Census Place Wolsingham, Durham, England
Family History Library Film 1342187
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4939 / 19
Page Number 31

related thread

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1293973?page=0

Patrick Lally
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1852 Ireland
census: 1881 Hedworth And Monkton And Jarrow,? Durham,? England
spouse: Margaret Lally
children: Mary Lally,? Michael Lally


name: Patrick Lally
age: 29
gender: Male
birth year: 1852
birthplace: Ireland
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation: Blast Furnace Labourer (Iron)
address: 26 Stanley St
census place: Hedworth And Monkton And Jarrow, Durham, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1342209
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 5021 / 124
page number: 25

Sorry Jax - was i supposed to continue from previous threads - never been 100% on how to use this site

xx

Referring to related thread of Thomas Lally. He can't be the son of 1911 Patrick & Margaret above as Thomas would make 9 children. He may be the son of Patrick and a previous wife as he was born in 1873.

Ozi

Joanna

if the information on the previous thread is relevant to this search, then yes, you should have continued on the older thread ....... it just saves all the work being duplicated.

We have to get our heads around your family ................... you know them pretty well, we don't, so we have to try to get enough information to get that "instinctive" feeling for them

That's why so many of us go back and forwards with censuses and other records ....... and this is what leads to the duplication.




sylvia

Perhaps????? (According to 1911 on other thread Thomas was born in Wolsingham)

1871 England Census
Name: Patrick Lally
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Lally
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Wolsingham
Town: Wolsingham
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Weardale
Sub-registration district: Wolsingham
Piece: 4952
Folio: 30
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Lally 23
Margaret Lally 19 - Newcastle, Northumberland <<<<<<<<<<<<
Mary J Lally 2 Months
Thomas H Blackett 67 - lodger
John Odonell 50 - lodger

1891?
Parents are Patrick (aged 40 born Ireland) and Margaret (aged 34 born Ireland:-

Mary Lally abt 1879 Ireland Daughter Hedworth Monkton and Jarrow, Durham
Michael Lally abt 1880 Jarrow, Durham, England Son Hedworth Monkton and Jarrow, Durham
John Lally abt 1882 Jarrow, Durham, England Son Hedworth Monkton and Jarrow, Durham
Barbara Lally abt 1884 Jarrow, Durham, England Daughter Hedworth Monkton and Jarrow, Durham
Thomas Lally abt 1886 Jarrow, Durham, England Son Hedworth Monkton and Jarrow, Durham
Margaret Lally abt 1888 Jarrow, Durham, England Daughter Hedworth Monkton and Jarrow, Durham

Peter Lally abt 1868 Ireland Brother Hedworth Monkton and Jarrow, Durham

Are you sure Catherine. If you look at the other thread which Joanna implies is her Thomas in 1911, you'll find he wasn't born in Jarrow.


Marriages Mar 1869
Lalley Patrick Weardale 10a 307
Lally Patrick Weardale 10a 307
Meehan Margaret Weardale 10a 307
TENNICK Elizabeth Weardale 10a 307
Winter John Weardale 10a 307

Daughter Mary was born in Ireland and from 1841 census Margaret's maiden name is Burk, so this looks to be the birth of Mary:-


Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 about Mary Lally

Name:Mary Lally
Gender:Female
Birth Date:26 Mar 1879
Birth Place:Glunn, Galway, Ireland

Father's Name:Patrick Lally
Mother's Name:Margaret Burke Lally

FHL Film Number:256030
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also:-

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 about Mary Lally

Name:Mary Lally
Gender:Female
Birth Date:13 Mar 1879
Birth Place:Glunn, Galway, Ireland
Father's Name:Patrick Lally
Mother's Name:Margaret Burke Lally
FHL Film Number:256030

so Margaret had a double barrelled surname (Burke Lally) ??

Also what does the FHL Film number mean?

Thanks you all for your help so far xxxx :-)

I think Joanna has to be very sure about Thomas's parents.

1881:
Patrick Lally Margaret abt 1847 Ireland Head Wolsingham, Durham
Patrick Lally Margaret abt 1852 Ireland Head Hedworth Monkton and Jarrow, Durham (This family doesn't have a Thomas)


Thomas's birth cert is needed.
Births Dec 1872 LALLY Thomas Weardale 10a 331

From other thread:

???
Thomas with family 1881

Patrick Lally
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Lally
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Wolsingham <<<<<<<<<
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: Upper Town
Occupation: Road Labourer
Registration district: Weardale
Sub-registration district: Wolsingham
Patrick Lally 34
Margaret Lally 30 - Newcastle, Northumberland
Thos. Lally 8
Mary J. Lally 6
Margaret Lally 4
Catherine Lally 1
Robt. Diew 59 lodger

Thomas marries Kate in the Weardale reg'n district and his children are registered there.

Births Jun 1913 Lally Elsie Pettitt Weardale 10a 628
Births Dec 1915 Lally Nora Pettitt Weardale 10a 513
Births Jun 1918 Lally Stella Pettit Weardale 10a 524
Births Dec 1920 Lally Joseph Pettitt Weardale 10a 592
Births Dec 1922 Lally Winifred Pettitt Weardale 10a 499
Births Jun 1924 Lally Christina Petitt Weardale 10a 582

(Apologies if any of these are still living.)