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"Thanks for your help. Only just joined Genes Reunited site and it feels as if I have my own support network, can't believe the way people have responded so promptly and with so much information. Once again many thanks.
Marcia"

Thanks, Marcia, very much appreciated.

It's always good to answer on the thread so people are aware you have seen the info found for you.

Happy hunting further generations of your Knights.

Ozi

45 years at death in 1878 makes him born c1833. That would make him 20 years younger than Sarah. Not impossible but he's supposed to be full age at marriage in 1849.

Ozi

P.S. I just wish I had ancestors in those parishes.

The silly thing is that I actually live in Berkeley and forgot about Scribes Alcove! I believe it is called 'information overload'!

EDIT

Possible death of William? There were several of them in Berkeley but I couldn't find a baptism with the father also named William.

NAME: William Knight BURIED: 25 Oct 1878 at Berkeley
AGE: 45 years
ABODE: Berkeley

Excellent, Christine. Between us we've cracked it.

Pats on the back all round!

Ozi

And I went the long way round about it!

groom's name: Joseph Merrett
bride's name: Sarah Ann Cope
marriage date: 29 May 1849
marriage place: Berkeley,Gloucester,England
indexing project (batch) number: M01648-1

groom's name: George Williams
bride's name: Helen Jones
marriage date: 30 May 1849
marriage place: Berkeley,Gloucester,England
indexing project (batch) number: M01648-1

groom's name: George Smith
bride's name: Sarah Wetman
marriage date: 07 May 1849
marriage place: Berkeley,Gloucester,England
indexing project (batch) number: M01648-1

Hang on to your money!

From Scribe's Alcove:

MARRIAGE: 17 May 1849 at Berkeley

GROOM BRIDE
NAME: William Knight Sarah Barrow?
AGE: Full Age Full Age
STATUS: Bachelor Spinster
OCCUPATION: Farmer
ABODE: Berkeley Berkeley
FATHER: William Knight Thomas Barrow?
FATHER'S OCCUPATION: Farmer Joiner

WITNESSES: Wm Cope, Eliza Cope

NB Sarah's father's name & occupation fit 1841 census.

!!!!!
England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: William Knight
bride's name: Sarah Barrow
marriage date: 17 May 1849
marriage place: Berkeley,Gloucester,England
indexing project (batch) number: M01648-1

Now you can get the marriage cert and find out the fathers' names and occupations.

So, trying to narrow down the people in the above marriage index. Unfortunately 1841 doesn't give the place they were born only the county. All the women below were born in Gloucestershire.

Thornbury reg'n district
1851:
Sarah A Merrett: husband Joseph; abt 1826; Berkeley; Wife; Berkeley, Gloucestershire (with an 11 mth old daughter) - probably Sarah Ann Cope who is living in Berkeley in 1841.
Helen Williams: husband George; abt 1825; Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England; Wife; Lydney, Gloucestershire (with one year old daughter and an Emma Jones visiting) - probably Helen Jones who is born Berkeley, and living in Berkeley in 1841.
Sarah Smith: husband George; abt 1826; Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England; Wife; Ham, Gloucestershire (with one year old daughter) - probably Sarah Wetmore who is aged 26 and living in Berkeley in 1841.


Notice that all these women have only one child who is about 11-12 months old, suggesting they've only been married about 2 years.

Yes I looked at this one too. Couldn't find William Knight in the 1851 in this area, so not impossible he moved! I have ancestors who moved the other way - from Shropshire down to Gloucestershire.

????? Although I'm very doubtful about this, but can't find a definite match for Sarah in 1841.
Marriages Jun 1849
Barrow Sarah Thornbury 11 644
Cope Sarah Ann Thornbury 11 644
Jones Helen Thornbury 11 644
Knight William Thornbury 11 644
Merrett Joseph Thornbury 11 644
Smith George Thornbury 11 644
Wetmore Sarah Thornbury 11 644
Williams George Thornbury 11 644

Sarah's brother Thomas...

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THOMAS BARROW Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 05 SEP 1824 Market Drayton, Shropshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: THOMAS BARROW Family
Mother: MARY


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

1841 England Census
Name: Mary Barrow
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1783
Gender: Female
Where born: Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Drayton in The Hales
Hundred: North Bradford (Drayton Division)
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street Address: New Town Drayton Parva

Registration district: Market Drayton
Sub-registration district: Market Drayton
Piece: 899
Book: 4
Folio: 5
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Barrow 54 - Carpenter
Mary Barrow 58
James Barrow 25
Thos Barrow 17
John Barrow 8

????
name: George Thomas Knight
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 11 Aug 1850
baptism/christening place: LITTLE DRAYTON,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father's name: William Knight
mother's name: Sarah
indexing project (batch) number: C03281-1



name: Sarah Barrow
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 03 Jul 1814
baptism/christening place: Market Drayton, Shropshire, England
father's name: Thomas Barrow
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: I06762-4

We posted at the same time Ozbird.

Well done for finding the 1871!

No help there then!

The best way to go would be to purchase George's birth cert in the hope that it names his father,

Births Sep 1850 (>99%)
Knight George Thomas Drayton Mt 18 114

Image is actually 55 yrs making her c1816. I have corrected.

1871 England Census
Name: Sarah Knight
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Market Drayton, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Drayton Magna
Ecclesiastical parish: Drayton St Mary Market
Town: Market Drayton
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street Address: Beast Market

Occupation: Retired Housekeeper

Condition as to marriage: widow

Registration district: Market Drayton
Sub-registration district: Market Drayton
Piece: 2800
Folio: 90
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Knight 33

Have you found Sarah in the 1871 census?

I don't seem to be having any luck finding her.

Thanks for the prompt reply.

1851 for ref

1851 England Census
about George S Knight
Name: George S Knight
Age: 8 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Grandson
Mother's name: Sarah Knight
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Drayton, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Drayton Parva
Ecclesiastical parish: Christ Church
Town: Market Drayton
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Market Drayton
Sub-registration district: Moreton Say
ED, institution, or vessel: 1h
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 88
Piece: 1996
Folio: 277
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Barrow 48
Thomas Barrow 24
John Barrow 17
Clement Barrow 9
Sarah Knight 34
George S Knight 8 Mo


Andy