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moved to america then returned when?

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DawnWilson

DawnWilson Report 19 Feb 2012 13:40

Please can you help me find out where in america my great uncle and aunt went to, and when they returned ,
Joseph Marshall b1900 Great Burstead,Essex and his wife Gertrude Marshall(nee reed),
they married in 1922 Rochdale Lancashire England .

thanking you for your help

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 19 Feb 2012 13:44

???
Name: Joseph Marshall
Birth Date: abt 1899
Age: 39
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 5 Jun 1938
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Le Havre
Ship Name: Georgic
Search Ship Database: View the 'Georgic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Cunard White Star
Official Number: 162365

Travelling with a Gertrude aged 37, Gladys aged 15 and Doris aged 13

Travelling to Temple Farm, Suttlewell Nr Southend, Essex.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Feb 2012 13:46

Their return:

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Joseph Marshall
Birth Date: abt 1899
Age: 39
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 5 Jun 1938
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Le Havre
Ship Name: Georgic
Shipping Line: Cunard White Star
Official Number: 162365

Travelling with Gertrude and two daughters with them.

DawnWilson

DawnWilson Report 19 Feb 2012 13:48

Thats great do we know if his wife and 2 daughters were with him ?
when he went to america, or were they born in america?
:-)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Feb 2012 13:49

Arriving in US:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Joseph Marshall
Arrival Date: 11 Jun 1926
Birth Year: abt 1901
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: billericay
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/RaceĀ­/Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Aquitania

He was travelling with Gertrude and the two daughters. He was a cowman and gives nok in England as his father Joseph Marshall of Temple Farm, Prittlewell, Essex.

Gertrude's birthplace given as Romford and the two little girls as Southend.

Their onward destination was to his father in law George Reed of RFD 7, Lockport, NY. They intended to stay in the US permanently.

Dea

Dea Report 19 Feb 2012 13:52

Is this them going out??

passenger transcript details
Name: Joseph MARSHALL
Date of departure: 5 June 1926
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA

Date of Birth: 1900 (calculated from age)
Age: 26
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Cowman
Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 22


The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Doris MARSHALL Page 1 of 22 View transcript
Gertrude MARSHALL Page 1 of 22 View transcript
Gladys MARSHALL Page 1 of 22 View transcript


Ship:

AQUITANIA
135583
J T N Charles
Cunard
New York, USA

Dea x


DawnWilson

DawnWilson Report 19 Feb 2012 13:54

Yes Dea, that is them
thanks MarieCeleste ,
thanks jonesey
you are all great

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Feb 2012 13:56

Dawn, I've just added a bit more detail to their arrival in US.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Feb 2012 13:57

1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Joseph E Marshall
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1900
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Home in 1930: Lockport, Niagara, New York

Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1926
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Gertrude Marshall
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Occupation: Labourer in Foundry
Education:
Military Service:
Rent/home value: Rent $30 per month
Age at first marriage: 22
Parents' birthplace:
Neighbors:

Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph E Marshall 30
Gertrude Marshall 29
Gladys M Marshall 7
Doris W Marshall 5

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 19 Feb 2012 14:00

1930 United States Federal Census
about Joseph E Marshall Name: Joseph E Marshall
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1900
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Home in 1930: Lockport, Niagara, New York
View Map
Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1926
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Gertrude Marshall
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England

Household Members: Name Age
Joseph E Marshall 30
Gertrude Marshall 29
Gladys M Marshall 7
Doris W Marshall 5



DawnWilson

DawnWilson Report 19 Feb 2012 14:05

MarieCeleste thank you for all you have found,
Margee thank you so much ,
:-)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Feb 2012 14:09

There is a well researched tree on ancestry that has lots of info on the family, including a photo of Gertrude.

If you're not a member of anc then you can register for free on their spin-off site Mundia. There you can search & view public ancestry trees and contact owners. http://www.mundia.com/gb/

DawnWilson

DawnWilson Report 19 Feb 2012 14:12

thank you i will have to go and look an see if i can find it , thanks again xx

DawnWilson

DawnWilson Report 19 Feb 2012 14:50

Is there any way to find out when george reed(gertrude's dad) went out therewas he married at the time or widdowed? would love to know if pos, if not thanks for your help,

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Feb 2012 14:56

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about George Reed
Name: George Reed
Arrival Date: 7 Mar 1923
Birth Year: abt 1859
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: dagenham
Age: 64
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/RaceĀ­/Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Southampton
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Majestic

He was a market gardener, travelling with wife Sara and sons Bertram (a carman), Stanley (a mason), and Leonard (a scholar). There are hand written notes on the lines for George and Sara that a medical certificate was required as they suffered from some form of senility (or it might have been to check for it).

Their nok was son George at Jordan's Farm, Prittenhall. They intended to reside permanently in US and onward destination was their daughter Mrs E Cain of Chestnut Street, Lockport, NY.

DawnWilson

DawnWilson Report 19 Feb 2012 15:01

Marieceleste thank you , can i ask a little more? ,
do we know if he went there with his wife? how would i find out if he died there?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Feb 2012 15:05

Dawn, I've added the info from the original image - you can see who he went with. (I usually post the transcription when I find it, then go back and look at the original image and make noted which I then add).

Will go and look for deaths .........

EDIT - can't find a death for George, but he would possibly have been too old when he arrived to have a social security number. That tree I mentioned has him dying in 1935 in NY state.

Sarah (nee Schooling) is stated as dying 1946.

Thelma

Thelma Report 19 Feb 2012 15:11

1901 England Census
about George Reed Name: George Reed
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Reed
Gender: Male
Where born: Dagenham, Essex, England

Civil parish: Dagenham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul
Town: Dagenham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Romford
Sub-registration district: Romford
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 339
Piece: 1645
Folio: 105
Page Number: 57
Household Members: Name Age
George Reed 41
Sarah Reed 38
Elizabeth Reed 19
George Reed 13
Florence Reed 11
Annie Reed 8
Walter Reed 6
Fredrick Reed 5
William Reed 3
Gertrude Reed 9 Months



MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Feb 2012 15:12

1930 United States Federal Census about George Reed
Name: George Reed
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1860
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Home in 1930: Lockport, Niagara, New York

Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1923
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Reed
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Occupation: Church Janitor
Education:
Military Service:
Rent/home value: $4000 (owned)
Age at first marriage: 20
Parents' birthplace:
Neighbors:

Household Members:
Name Age
George Reed 70
Sarah Reed 68
Stanley Reed 23 - Mechanic
Leonard Reed 20 - Innkeeper

DawnWilson

DawnWilson Report 19 Feb 2012 15:16

thanking you all yet again , :-D