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Victor
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10 Feb 2012 20:54 |
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A H W Trapman married Olga Mary Dickson in Bromley Kent 1930 GRO Ref Sept 1930 Vol 02a Page1997. A H W Trapman was formally the husband of Countess Irene Trapman formally Maggiolini Scarampi di Mombercelli Belverdere "Spinster from whom he obtained a divorce" We understand he died between 1930 and 1937 but we can find no death record nor can we find a birth record. A H W Trapman was stated to be in 1930 a retired Captain Royal Engineers and an Author. His father was William Hume Trapman deceased. We are trying to findout where he was born and where he died. Also we have heresay comment that AHW Trapman took his own life. Can anyone help with this puzzle? Regards Victor
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10 Feb 2012 21:01 |
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I presume you have checked this out
Name: Albert H W Trapman Birth Date: abt 1877 Age: 49 Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States Arrival Date: 28 Jun 1926 Port of Arrival: Southampton, England Ship Name: Berengaria Shipping Line: Cunard Line Official Number: 144301
Author - Financier
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10 Feb 2012 21:02 |
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Overseas BMD details Registration event: Death
Name: TRAPMAN, Albert H W Consulate: Bordighera Country: Italy Year: 1931-1935 Volume: 27 Page: 182 Age at death: 56 Record source: GRO Consular Death Indices (1849 to 1965)
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10 Feb 2012 21:04 |
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Name: Albert Henry William TRAPMAN Date of departure: 19 May 1925 Port of departure: Avonmouth Passenger destination port: Santa Marta, Colombia Passenger destination: Santa Marta, Colombia
Date of Birth: 1877 (calculated from age) Age: 48 Marital status: Sex: Male Occupation: Author Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 2
Ship: Official Number: Master's name: Steamship Line: Where bound: Square feet: Registered tonnage: Passengers on voyage: PATUCA 132040 R B Drake Elders & Fyffes Ltd Santa Marta, Colombia 3337.34 8
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10 Feb 2012 21:05 |
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ame: Albert Henry William TRAPMAN Date of departure: 22 January 1931 Port of departure: Avonmouth Passenger destination port: Santa Marta, Colombia Passenger destination: Santa Marta, Colombia
Date of Birth: 1877 (calculated from age) Age: 54 Marital status: Sex: Male Occupation: Author Passenger recorded on: Page 3 of 6
Ship: Official Number: Master's name: Steamship Line: Where bound: Square feet: Registered tonnage: Passengers on voyage: BAYANO 141870 F H Swain Elders & Fyffes Limited Colombia 2963.11 61
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10 Feb 2012 21:05 |
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There is a death record for Albert H W Trapman Consulate-Bordighera Country Italy Year 1931-35 Vol 27 Page 182 Age at death 56 Gro consular indices 1849-1962
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jansmith
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10 Feb 2012 21:08 |
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departure 1931 info from image address 29 Park Road Bromley Kent age 54 yrs
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Victor
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10 Feb 2012 21:37 |
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To Glitterbaby, Jansmith, & Aiden Ref Albert H W Trapman Thank very much for your quick and accurate responses. The death record will be followed up to see if the cause of death is specified. I still have the problem of finding out the Nationality of A H W Trapman and to locate a birth certificate. The name sounds English or is it? I have checked all the English and Welsh birth records without success. Thank you all again Regards Victor
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10 Feb 2012 22:06 |
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can someone look at electoral roll info on Ancestry please William Hume Trapman 1894 Kensington South Kensington and Chelsea +other years
Albert Henry Trapman 1919 Paddington and St Marylebone Westminster Albert Henry William Trapman 1922 City of Westminster and St Marylebone Westminster Albert Henry W'Illiam Trapman 1930 Woolwich Newham
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Victor
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10 Feb 2012 22:22 |
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To Jansmith Ref Albert Henry William Trapman b1877 There is no doubt that his name is Albert and his name & age checked via marriage certificate and when boarding ships reflects back to a birth year of 1877. Can anyone help with his army record as Captain in the Royal Engineers? Was he born overseas? Regards Victor
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10 Feb 2012 22:30 |
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posting for info in case you find a connection with any electoral roll info on ancestry as William was in Kensington 1901 married but no husband with her. daughter born 1872 in Paris Address: 29, Roland Gardens, Kensington County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born TRAPMAN, Lila R Wife Married F 60 1841 Lady Charleston South Caroline U S A TRAPMAN, Rosa L Daughter Single F 29 1872 Lady France Paris TRAPMAN, L A Son Single M 38 1863 Crucible Manufacturer Liverpool HOLTON, Florence Servant Single F 23 1878 Housemaid Domestic Buckingham Buckinghamshire ARTIGAN, Marcelin Servant Widow F 29 1872 Cook Domestic France Nortaas (French Subject) SHALLISH, Florence Servant Single F 19 1882 Parlourmaid Domestic Uphill Somersetshire MERELLE, Charlotte Servant Single F 16 1885 Maid Domestic France Vitre (French Subject) SMITH, Montague Servant Single M 30 1871 Butler Domestic Cavendish Suffolk
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Victor
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10 Feb 2012 22:37 |
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To jansmith
Ref Albert Henry William Trapman born c 1877
We have record that in 1930 AHW Trapman lived at 38 Lakedale Road Plumstead SE and his age was 53.
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10 Feb 2012 22:39 |
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Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DI MOMBERCELLI Irene M S Hastings 2b 102 MAGGIOLINI Irene Hastings 2b 102 NOAKES Lilian Martha Hastings 2b 102 S'CARAMPI DI MOMBERCELLI Irene Maggiolini Hastings 2b 102 >>>>>TRAPMANN Albert Henry W Hastings 2b 102 WICKENDEN Isaac Henry Hastings 2b 102
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TRAPMANN, Albert Head Married M 34 1877 Captain Adjutant Territorial Battn S Kensington London VIEW TRAPMANN, Irene Wife Married F 22 1889 Upper Norwood London VIEW TRAPMANN, Adrian Son M 0 (5 MONTHS) 1911 Stanford Dingley Berks VIEW LAMB, Ellen Servant Widow F 40 1871 Cook - Housekeeper Domestic Henley on Thames Oxon VIEW LAMB, Ellen Servant Single F 15 1896 Ladies Maid Domestic Hern Hill London S E VIEW CROOK, Alfred Servant Single M 17 1894 Footman Domestic Weston Bucks VIEW REEVE, Annie Nurse Single F 38 1873 Nurse Domestic Gt Chesterfield Essex VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 6534 Reference: RG14PN6534 RG78PN324 RD120 SD1 ED4 SN83 Registration District: Bradfield Sub District: Bucklebury Enumeration District: 4 Parish: Bradfield Address: Brookside Stanford Dingley Near Reading County: Berkshire
married 1 year
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Births Dec 1876 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Trapmann William Kensington 1a 168
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10 Feb 2012 22:45 |
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1911 for his father then married 49years 6 children 4living 2 died
1911 census transcription details for: 29 Roland Gardens S W
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN118 RG78PN4 RD2 SD1 ED31 SN195
Reg. District: Kensington Sub District: Kensington South Parish: Kensington Enum. District: 31 Address: 29 Roland Gardens S W County: London
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born TRAPMANN, William H Head Married M 81 1830 Retired Merchant U S a Resident
MEISTER, Leila Von Daughter Married F 39 1872 Sudbury on T England
RIME, Bertha Servant Single F 42 1869 Cook Domestic Charmey Switzerland FANON, Marguerite Servant Single F 29 1882 General Servant Domestic Pan France DARLEY, Ethel Marian Hospital Nurse Single F 30 1881 Hospital Nurse St Andrews Plymouth APPLEYARD, Jessie Hospital Nurse Single F 46 1865 Hospital Nurse Kensington Lambeth HARMS, Annie Servant Single F 35 1876 General Servant Domestic Guildford Surrey
DADE, Gertrude Servant Single F 26 1885 General Servant Domestic Sarlingham Norfolk ITZINGER, Gladys Servant Single F 15 1896 General Servant Domestic Hammersmith London MUNDAY, Rosetta Seravnt Single F 37 1874 General Servant Domestic South Night London
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10 Feb 2012 22:55 |
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wonder if this is the mother (wife of above) same one as i posted for 1901 now living with her son. married 49 years 6 children 4 living Address: Riverdene Portmore Park Road Weybridge County: Surrey
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born TRAYMANN, Louis Head Single M 48 1863 Crucible Manufacturer Lancs Liverpool TRAPMANN, Lila Mother Married 49 years F 70 1841 U S a Residents SEYMOUR, Walter Visitor Married 8 years F 33 1878 Warwickshire Kimbarton TORRIANO, Henrietta Visitor Married 8 years F 33 1878 Kent Bromley STURGESS, Ellen Servant Single F 34 1877 Housekeeper Domestic Northampton YOUNG, Violet Servant Single F 34 1877 House Parlourmaid Domestic Hers Heinch Hempstead DIX, Elizabeth Servant Single F 25 1886 Lady's Maid Domestic London
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10 Feb 2012 23:03 |
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Lila could really be Eliza?? eg. District: Cheltenham Sub District: Cheltenham Parish: Cheltenham Enum. District: 37 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Promenade, Cheltenham County: Gloucestershire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born ROSE, Aurthur Garden Head M 75 1796 United States ROSE, Elizabeth G Wife F 59 1812 United States GUERARD, Amelia L Daughter F 43 1828 United States TRAPMANN, Eliza Rose Daughter F 28 1843 United States TRAPMANN, Aurthur R Grandson M 4 1867 Lancashire TRAPMANN, Louisa R Daughter F 2 1869 France BOWATER, Ellen Servant F 28 1843 Warwickshire DYKINS, Ellen Servant F 30 1841 Flintshire STRANTZ, Henrietta Servant F 32 1839 France
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11 Feb 2012 03:48 |
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Try googling his name!!
There quite a few references to him
This is just one result:-
Review by a Jonathan Trapman ..............................
This review is from: The Dog: Man's Best Friend. A Book For All Dog Lovers (Paperback)
Although this reviewer happens to be a direct descendant of the author, it is not this alone that affords Capt. A.H. Trapman's splendid book on the Dog to deserve a 5 star rating.
This one book became, totally unexpectedly from the author's expectation, the definitive book on dogs from its publication in 1928 until 1953. Its homely, humorous, lovingly researched content will thrill dog lovers the world over. His months of deep research both in the States, UK and Europe make this vintage tome an absolute must for any animal lover's library.
Captain Trapman's love of dogs and his reasons for writing this book are as fascinating as this book. This reviewer's bio indicates why he was so keen to publish this excellent read.
Captain Albert Henry William Trapman can be mightily proud to be once again in print with this latest reprint of a classic of its time. He never knew how high he set the bar, but thankfully others recognized his worth.
from the reviewer's bio.........................
In My Own Words: Find out how the research by AH Trapman for his book "The Dog - Man's Best Friend"(reviewed here) uncovered a family secret that helped change the world, further developing the impetus for humankind to reach for freedom - visit www.thefreedomcycle.com
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11 Feb 2012 04:21 |
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from a Public Family tree on ancestry
Albert Henry William Trapman Birth 15 Sept 1876 in England
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William Hume Trapmann b. 1830, Charleston, South Carolina, USA d. 1915, Surrey, UK
Eliza Gardner Rose b. 1841, Charleston, SC d. Jan 1912, London, England
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Louis Alexander Stuart Trapman b. Oct qt 1862, Lancashire, England d. 1939, Kent, England Arthur Gordon Rose Trapman b. 18 May 1866, Lancashire d. 1896, Dinard, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France Louisa Adele Rose Trapman b.ca 1868, France d. 21 Oct 1962, Ploughley, Oxfordshire Leila Gardner Trapman b.July qt 1871, Sunbury, Middlesex d. 1957
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11 Feb 2012 04:43 |
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from ancestry ............. you would have to buy the will to find who was actually mentioned in it. But it migth give you some ideas.
Plus it looks as if William Hume had re-married.
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941 about William Hume Trapman
Name: William Hume Trapman Probate Date: 9 Jul 1915 Death Date: 3 Jun 1915 Death Place: Surrey, England Registry: London
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William Hume Trapman of Chart House, Ash Vale, Surrey, died 3 June 1915. Probate [granted] 9 July 1915 to Agnes Trapman, widow. Effects £2159 5s 1d
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941 about Agnes Trapman
Name: Agnes Trapman Probate Date: 27 Jan 1936 Death Date: 25 Dec 1935 Death Place: Hampshire, England Registry: London
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Agnes Trapman of Caversham, Church Road, Ash, Aldershot, Hampshire, widow, died 25 Dec 1935. Administration [granted] London 27 Jan 1936 to Margaret Louisa Temple, spinster. Effects £69 11s 9d
Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%) Temple Agnes Trapman Kingston 2a 917 Trapman William H Temple Kingston 2a 917
he didn't wait long after Eliza died!!
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941 about Eliza Gardner Trapmann
Name: Eliza Gardner Trapmann Probate Date: 19 Feb 1912 Death Date: 9 Jan 1912 Death Place: Middlesex, England Registry: London
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Eliza Gardner Trapmann of 29 Roland Gardens, Queen's Gate, Middlesex (wife of William Hume Trapmann) died 9 January 1912. Administration [granted] London 19 Feb 1912 to Louis Alexander Stuart Trapmann, esquire. Effects £449 12s 4d
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11 Feb 2012 04:49 |
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other wills for
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941 about Louis Alexander Stuart Trapman
Name: Louis Alexander Stuart Trapman Probate Date: 3 Nov 1939 Death Date: 31 Aug 1939 Death Place: Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England Registry: London
Probate granted to widow Henriette Lily Trapman and National Provincial Bank Limited Effects £74,333 17s 2d
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