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Hi all
trying to find info on a mary Dowling born 1862 Co kerry Ireland lived in liverpool and had seven children to joseph hull born 1857 in liverpool
As a newbe to this any help or guidance will be appreciated

1891 census
do you think this is the right family

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
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HULL, Joseph Head Married M 34 1857 Railway Porter
Liverpool VIEW
HULL, Mary Wife Married F 29 1862
Ireland VIEW
HULL, Ellen Daughter Single F 5 1886
Walton VIEW
HULL, Mary Daughter Single F 0 (10M) 1891
Walton VIEW
HULL, Thomas Father Married M 65 1826 Bricklayer
Walton VIEW
HULL, Ellen Mother Married F 63 1828
Walton VIEW
Piece:
2978 Folio:
7 Page:
7 Registration District:
West Derby

Civil Parish:
Walton on the Hill Municipal Borough:
Address:
58, Andrew Street, Walton On The Hill County:
Lancashire

Is this their marriage?

Marriages Sep 1884 (>99%)
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Dowling Paulina Mary W. Derby 8b 674
Hull Joseph W. Derby 8b 674

The only Marriage I am finding so far is the following...

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1882

HULL Joseph. MILLER Henrietta M .West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended

EDIT>>>> 1884

Trancsribed as.....

DOWLING Paulina M. **PAULINA** Joseph H. Kirkdale, St. Mary

Joseph 1871 ???????????????????

HULL, Thomas Head M 46 1825 Lancashire VIEW
HULL, Ellen Wife F 42 1829 Lancashire VIEW
HULL, Thomas Son M 18 1853 Lancashire VIEW
HULL, Joseph Son M 16 1855 Lancashire VIEW
HULL, Mary Daughter F 14 1857 Lancashire VIEW
HULL, Sarah A Daughter F 10 1861 Lancashire VIEW
SHACKLADY, William Boarder M 21 1850 Lancashire VIEW
PENNY, Joseph Boarder M 50 1821 Lancashire VIEW
Piece:
3825 Folio:
87 Page:
28 Registration District:
West Derby

Civil Parish:
Kirkdale Municipal Borough:
Liverpool Address:
Tintern Street, Kirkdale, Liverpool County:
Lancashire

They're on a tree on Rootweb but no more info than what you've got:

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3230178&id=I548

Incredible response thankyou all, it is the right familiesand has given me a lot more to go on once again thankyou

1851

MCKEE, David Head Married M 38 1813 Dock Labourer
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
MCKEE, Ellin Wife Married F 37 1814
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
HULL, Thomas Brother In Law Married M 23 1828 Dock Labourer
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
HULL, Ellin Wife Married F 22 1829
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
Piece:
2190 Folio:
543 Page:
22 Registration District:
West Derby

Civil Parish:
Kirkdale Municipal Borough:
Liverpool Address:
2, Town To Dee, Kirkdale, Liverpool County:
Lancashire

Hi John,do you have children Denton 1893? I think this has been mistranscribed from 1901 census as there is no birth record for that name.
On a closer look at the original it starts with B and looks like Benj.
I think this is him Benjamin Hull A/M/J 1892 west Derby.

Darcy on 1901 is infact Daisy 1894 West Derby she married Joseph Noden in 1918.

Benjamin Hull born 1892 in Walton.
1911 71, Makin Street walton

Sarah Ellen Moorcroft 1862 Everton widow.
Benjamin Hull nephew Railway Worker (like Joseph Hull 2/12/1855 died 1903.

Army records show Benjamin Hull born 1892 born in Walton a Fireman
Reg no 34815.
Next of Kin Aunt Sarah Moorcroft 18,Romley St walton.

There is a death for Mary Hull 1862 - 1909.

Maryb.

Sarah Ellen Hull born 25/8/1861 christened 1868 by Thomas and Ellen Hull.She married William Moorcroft in 1880.
Address at time of marriage for Sarah Ellen Hull was Cherry lane the place where Joseph was in 1881 and witnesses were Benjamin Hull and Mary hull.
Benjamin Hull brother to Joseph.

Sarah Ellen Hull sister to Joseph who married Mary Dowling.

Maryb.

Thomas Hull...Baptism also Baptised same time *Benjamin Hull* b1848.

Baptism: 20 Mar 1851 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancs.
Thomas Hull - [Child] of Thomas Hull & Ellen
Born: 27 Feb 1851
Abode: Fulford St.
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: J. Wm. Welsh Off: Min.
Register: Baptisms 1850 - 1851, Page 310, Entry 2476

Benjamin Hull married Eliz. Barclay/ Barcley at Our Lady and St Nicholas 1870
She was possibly daughter of Wm and Isabelle Barclay...Baptised above Church 1848.
Baptism: 11 Jul 1847 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Barcley - [Child] of William Barcley & Isabella
Abode: New Hall St.
Occupation: Wheelwright.

1881 Census...

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Benjamin HULL Head M Male 31 L pool, French Polisher
Elizabeth HULL Wife M Female 29 L pool,
Mary J. HULL Daur Female 11 L pool, Scholar
Sarah E. HULL Daur Female 9 L Scholar
Elizabeth HULL Daur Female 6 L pool, Scholar
Benjamin HULL Son Male 3 L pool,
Joseph HULL Son Male 5 m L pool,


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Source Information:
Dwelling 4 Roden St
Census Place Everton, Lancashire, England

? Josephs parents....

Thomas Hull

marriage: 07 Mar 1847 Liverpool,


groom's name: Thomas Hull
bride's name: Ellen Walker
marriage date: 07 Mar 1847
marriage place: Liverpool, Lancaster, England
groom's father's name: Benjammin Hull
bride's father's name: John Walker
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single

Marriage was at Christ Church Liverpool

Possible Birth / Baptism

Mary Dowling.
Birth 14th Mar 1862
Baptism 19th Mar 1862

Father- Nicholas Dowling.
Mother- Jane Talbot.

Address- Laherne,Tralee

The above marriage doesnt match with details from Tree Link provided by Margee ...

You would need to be checking that out as the Tree has no definative source details...

This may be them 1901 census.

Named as Hall

Benjm Hall - aged 8 born Liverpool
Darcy " " 7 "
Edward " " 3 "
Ellen " " 15 "
John " " 5 "
Joseph " head 45 " Railway Lodger examineer
Lillian " 1 "
Mary " 10 "
Mary " wife 39 County Kerry Ireland.

Address- 39, Nelson Street,
Walton on the Hill
Liverpool

Morning Liam....!! Did another trawl through the Co Kerry mainly because I couldnt find any of their children named Nicholas/Jane...then found the following

John...Have you Mary and Josephs MC...if so then it should give her fathers name... you can then cross ref.with this..(.took some finding mainly because she was Christened PAULINE not Mary) and birth date is 1859

parents: Thomas Dowling
spouse: Joseph Hull


groom's name: Joseph Hull
groom's birth date: 1856
groom's age: 28
bride's name: Pauline Mary Dowling
bride's birth date: 1859
bride's age: 25
marriage date: 25 Aug 1884
marriage place: St. Mary'S, Kirkdale, Lancashire, England
groom's father's name: Thomas Hull
bride's father's name: Thomas Dowling

Joseph Hull 2/12/1856 died Sept 1903.
Mary dowling died 1909.

Maryb.

John....Do you know address where Mary (Pauline ) was living at time of her marriage...?

Hi'Erin, Happy New Year to you and yours,

Good find !!!
I must confess, I only looked at the 1862 births, normally I take a wider look but didn't in this case, I'm not thinking straight with the flu'

I had thought of the names, Nicholas/Jane, however s there was 5 year age gap between Ellen an Mary, I thought that this could account it