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I have hit a blank with the above born c1865. Fred had 3 sisters Emily c1864, Rose c1866 and Ada. c1869. Fred married Annie Marchant, born 1866 from Sussex. I see Fred in 1891 and 1911 census with correct family - and also having his place of birth as Sussex N - but can find no trace of the family together in early years - I am trying to find their parents. I see also a Fred Parfitt born in Somerset also married to an Annie. I know that there are many Parfitt families there and I have viewed all that I can find but cannot find Fred and his 3 sisters in any of them. Most of the four children ended up in Surrey/Sussex. There is a handed down family story that they were in fact from Somerset originally but I have viewed most from Clutton and Frome and surrounding areas and just cannot see them! Please can someone with better resources and/or knowledge assist me further. Fred and Annie had a son William born in 1891 in Ripley, Surrey - amongst other children.

Hope the above is enough info? Thanks.

1891?? For reference

Name: Frederick Parfitt
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie Parfitt
Gender: Male
Where born: Somerset, England

Civil parish: Send and Ripley
Ecclesiastical parish: Ripley
Town: Ripley
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Guildford
Sub-registration district: Ripley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 557
Folio: 38
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick Parfitt 26
Annie Parfitt 25
William Parfitt 8/12

possibly Ada, which says Somerset

Births Dec 1868
PARFITT Ada Clutton 5c 635

What was Freds fathers name? his marriage cert will tell you

No image available Search collectionAbout this collectionName: Ada Parfitt
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 05 Jan 1869
Baptism/Christening Place: Camerton, Somerset, England
Birth Date: 29 Oct 1868
Birthplace: Camerton, Somerset, England
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Herbert Parfitt
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C17005-1
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1597223
Reference Number: item 17

1881??

PARFITTY, William Head Married M 38 1843 Cowman
Benton
Northumberland VIEW
PARFITTY, Jane Selina Wife Married F 38 1843
Blackford
Somerset VIEW
PARFITTY, Fred Son Single M 17 1864 Cowman
Bursted
Somerset VIEW
PARFITTY, Emma Eliza Daughter Single F 3 1878
Castle Cary
Somerset VIEW
PARFITTY, Rose Adelaide Daughter Single F 2 1879
Selmeston
Sussex VIEW
PARFITTY, Ada Maud Mary Daughter Single F 0 1881
Selmeston
Sussex VIEW
Piece:
1072 Folio:
54 Page:
1 Registration District:
Lewes

Civil Parish:
Selmeston Municipal Borough:
Address:
Old Farm House, Selmeston County:
Sussex

Maybe better

Frederic William Parfitt
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 19 Mar 1878 Camerton,? Somerset,? England
christening: 23 Apr 1878 Camerton,? Somerset,? England
residence: 1878 Somerset,? England
parents: William Parfitt,? Hariett

Hello Linda, happy to help but what are the known facts?

Are any of these your direct ancestors from a proven line?

1891?

PARFITT, William Head Married M 47 1844 Farm Bailiff
Galhampton
Somersetshire VIEW
PARFITT, Jane Wife Married F 47 1844
Cadbury
Somersetshire VIEW
PARFITT, Emma Daughter F 13 1878
Cadbury
Somersetshire VIEW
PARFITT, Rose Daughter F 11 1880
Selmeston
Sussex VIEW
PARFITT, Maud Daughter F 10 1881
Selmeston
Sussex VIEW
PARFITT, Theodore Son M 8 1883
Alfriston
Sussex VIEW
PARFITT, Albert Son Single M 6 1885
Alfriston
Sussex VIEW
Piece:
585 Folio:
31 Page:
17 Registration District:
Croydon

Civil Parish:
Sanderstead Municipal Borough:
Croydon Address:
Selsdon Village, Sanderstead, Addington, Croydon County:
Surrey

This is strange because I have heard of Parfitts in Alfriston, Sussex but cant see how they fit - I have no record of Emma, Maud, Theodore or Albert -but there must be some connection - more work required from me I think. At least I have a lot more things to work from. Thanks.

Sorry to some of the above - I seem to have broken a rule and replied direct on Send Message rather than reply here. I didnt realise!

Reply to Marie Celeste: Yes Fred William Parfitt was my maternal great-grandfather.

Reply to K: You have FWP married to a Jane but mine is definitely Annie Marchant but it is a real mystery because I remember my maternal grandparents going on holidays to Alfriston but I just cant see the connection to my FW Parfitt married to Annie!

Hello again Linda, don't worry about the rules - you learn them as you go!! :-)

Just adding the details:

"Yes these are my ancestors from a proven line. My mother still living,her father Albert Edward Parfitt (or John/Jack) 1900-1963, his father was Frederick William Parfitt (married to Annie Marchant) who I am trying to find together with his 3 sisters, Emily, Rose and Ada. Do you need any more? I just cant FWP his siblings and his ancestors! Thanks"

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Jane Selina Napper
Name: Jane Selina Napper
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1842
Registration district: Wincanton
Inferred County: Dorset, Somerset
Volume: 10
Page: 518 (click to see others on page)

This could be Jane, but i dont see a marriage.

1871 England Census about Frederick Napper
Name: Frederick Napper
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Pilton, Somerset, England
Civil parish: North Cadbury
Town: Galhampton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Wincanton
Sub-registration district: Castle Cary
ED, institution, or vessel: 5d
Household schedule number: 43
Piece: 2421
Folio: 53
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
John Napper 62
Eliza Napper 62
William Napper 40
Mary D Napper 28
Jane S Napper 26
Julia Napper 25
Emma Napper 23
Sabina B Napper 21
Frederick Napper 12

There is this, age is out though

so i really think you need to bite the bullet and buy FWP ' s marriage cert to find out his fathers name

Just ignore anything you already have, I'm posting info for background and reference point:

1911:
PARFITT, Frederick William Head Married M 46 1865 Driver At Livery Stable And Anything Connected Withe Business Sussex N
PARFITT, Annie Wife Married 21 years F 45 1866 Sussex Hellingly
PARFITT, Frederick William Son Single M 21 1890 Oil Salesman And Travelling Drapers Assistant Surrey Ripley
PARFITT, Rose Daughter Single F 14 1897 School Child Surrey Ripley
PARFITT, John Son Single M 11 1900 School Child Surrey Ripley
PARFITT, Emsly Daughter Single F 10 1901 School Child Surrey Ripley
PARFITT, Ada Daughter Single F 5 1906 School Child Surrey Ripley

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Registration District: Guildford
Sub District: Ripley
Enumeration District: 1
Parish: Send and Ripley

Address: The Green Ripley Woking County: Surrey

** 1901 has him as a groom/coachman born Somerset.

Penny - yes I think FWP's marriage certificate is a must have- I just cant get back any further without it.

Helen: Sorry who is Jane and the Nappers?!!

Linda, how do you know that Emily, Rose and Ada were his sisters?

Thanks Marie Celeste for background info which is all right except my grandfather is down as "John" as he was called as a child and he was known as "Jack"as an adult but his birth cert has him as Albert Edward - if only things were more simple! Will definitely get FWP's birth certificate. Very odd the three girls and he do not appear on relevant census. Thanks again one and all for your help.

My mother remembers them all and knows who they married - or not in the case of Rose who had an illegitimate daughter when she was in service! I also remember seeing old Aunt Rose when I was very young. There is no doubt as to them being correct. My maternal grandfather co-incidentally also had sisters called Emily, Rose and Ada - which confused me in the past until my mother put me right when we were talking at Christmas!