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Peter

Peter Report 13 Nov 2011 20:37

There is also this death but age is not quite right:

Deaths Jun 1911 (>99%)
Smith Clara 26 Middlesbro 9d 400 Scan available - click to view

Also these marriages:

Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%)
SMITH Clara Cass Middlesbro 9d 1143 Scan available

There are some more marriages in the 1920s in Middlesbrough/Stockton buth nothing seems to jump out!

Peter

Peter Report 13 Nov 2011 20:30

Hi there,

Sorry for causing confusion! Yes, I am said 1901 when I meant 1911!

I am looking to find more about this Clara Smith (nee BAGE), who is shown in 1901 and 1911 here:

1901 Census

Name: Clara Smith
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Smith
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesbro, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Ormesby
Ecclesiastical parish: North Ormesby Holy Trinity
Town: North Ormesby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Ormesby

John Smith 27 b.ca 1874, Nth Ormesby, Yorkshire, Coal Hawker
Clara Smith 21

Address:- 46 Pierson Street

WOOD, Henry L Head Married M 21 1890 Steel Worker Yorks Middlesbrough
WOOD, Jane Wife Married 2 years F 24 1887 Yorks Middlesbrough
WOOD, Elsie Sister Single F 18 1893 Servant General Yorks Middlesbrough
WOOD, Annie L Mother Widow F 59 1852 Yorks Stainton
WOOD, Elsie M Daughter F 1 1910 Yorks Middlesbrough
SMITH, Clara Sister Married 12 years F 30 1881 Barmaid Hotel Yorks Middlesbrough
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Registration District: Middlesbrough
Sub District: Middlesbrough West
Enumeration District: 31
Parish: Middlesbrough

Address: 16 Derwent Street Middlesbrough County: Yorkshire (North riding)

I was looking for a death to see if I could see an obituary for children's names etc.

However, the common name is proving difficult. If there are no deaths, maybe she did remarry?!

Thank you again! What is best to do here in finding our more about Clara after 1911?

Peter

Peter Report 13 Nov 2011 20:30

Hi there,

Sorry for causing confusion! Yes, I am said 1901 when I meant 1911!

I am looking to find more about this Clara Smith (nee BAGE), who is shown in 1901 and 1911 here:

1901 Census

Name: Clara Smith
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Smith
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesbro, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Ormesby
Ecclesiastical parish: North Ormesby Holy Trinity
Town: North Ormesby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Ormesby

John Smith 27 b.ca 1874, Nth Ormesby, Yorkshire, Coal Hawker
Clara Smith 21

Address:- 46 Pierson Street

WOOD, Henry L Head Married M 21 1890 Steel Worker Yorks Middlesbrough
WOOD, Jane Wife Married 2 years F 24 1887 Yorks Middlesbrough
WOOD, Elsie Sister Single F 18 1893 Servant General Yorks Middlesbrough
WOOD, Annie L Mother Widow F 59 1852 Yorks Stainton
WOOD, Elsie M Daughter F 1 1910 Yorks Middlesbrough
SMITH, Clara Sister Married 12 years F 30 1881 Barmaid Hotel Yorks Middlesbrough
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Registration District: Middlesbrough
Sub District: Middlesbrough West
Enumeration District: 31
Parish: Middlesbrough

Address: 16 Derwent Street Middlesbrough County: Yorkshire (North riding)

I was looking for a death to see if I could see an obituary for children's names etc.

However, the common name is proving difficult. If there are no deaths, maybe she did remarry?!

Thank you again! What is best to do here in finding our more about Clara after 1911?

patchem

patchem Report 13 Nov 2011 07:55

If no obvious death is showing, possibly her husband died and she married someone else.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Nov 2011 07:04

MC


doh!


Of course, I know that mmn is on birth certifcates, all the way back to July 1 1837! I have several going that far back


slip of the finger .... I meant to say on the registration.





sylcia

patchem

patchem Report 12 Nov 2011 18:07

Have you contacted the member who also has Clara in their tree on here?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Nov 2011 17:59

I think the 1915 death isn't right:

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Jun 1915
Smith Clara 1 Middlesbro 9d 741

.. and she was still alive in 1911.

Peter, what exactly are you trying to find?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Nov 2011 17:55

I think 1901 in opening post was a typo and should have been 1911:

WOOD, Henry L Head Married M 21 1890 Steel Worker Yorks Middlesbrough
WOOD, Jane Wife Married 2 years F 24 1887 Yorks Middlesbrough
WOOD, Elsie Sister Single F 18 1893 Servant General Yorks Middlesbrough
WOOD, Annie L Mother Widow F 59 1852 Yorks Stainton
WOOD, Elsie M Daughter F 1 1910 Yorks Middlesbrough
SMITH, Clara Sister Married 12 years F 30 1881 Barmaid Hotel Yorks Middlesbrough
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Registration District: Middlesbrough
Sub District: Middlesbrough West
Enumeration District: 31
Parish: Middlesbrough

Address: 16 Derwent Street Middlesbrough County: Yorkshire (North riding)

TheLadyInRed

TheLadyInRed Report 12 Nov 2011 17:43

Tees Valley Indexes have two deaths for Clara Smith between 1901 - 1921:

year of death 1910: ref M-M-1-0-166

year of death 1915: ref M-M-14-0-443

There's also a Clara D Smith in Guisborough (just along the road) but as you don't mention a middle name I'm assuming this not her

You may need to get both death certs to establish which (if either) is your Clara but you can ask questions of registrar before ordering certificate

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Nov 2011 17:43

Sylvia, the mother's maiden name IS on English birth certificates before 1911 (I'm looking at some now!), it's just on the registration that it doesn't show!

TheLadyInRed

TheLadyInRed Report 12 Nov 2011 17:32

Peter, you say "(can't see her in 1901). In 1901 she is living with her brother Harry (Henry) Wood, his wife Jane, their daughter Elsie, and her mother Annie Langburn Wood.

So, do you mean to say that you can't see her in 1901 or some other year?

Peter

Peter Report 12 Nov 2011 01:31

Sylvia,

SPOT ON! Thank you - confirmed all my own research.

I am more concerned at present in finding Clara's death. Does is jump out?

Peter

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Nov 2011 01:26

Peter


as you know, mmn is not on birth certificates until mid-1911, so looking for smith is a horrid task!



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Nov 2011 01:14

Peter


was Annie's maiden name Featherstone?


She married Alfred Bage on 5 Aug 1872, Parish Church, Parish of St. John, County of Newcastle on Tyne



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Nov 2011 01:10

Nathaniel L Wood died 1903, Middlesborough





sylvia

Peter

Peter Report 12 Nov 2011 01:08

There you go Margee - 'broken' families are not just a 21st Century phenomena. Also, I suspect Annie was a bigamist but that is another story. I already have a lot of on her and the families but I am looking into Clara.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Nov 2011 01:07

Could this be her in 1901???


1901 Census

Name: Clara Smith
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Smith
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesbro, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Ormesby
Ecclesiastical parish: North Ormesby Holy Trinity
Town: North Ormesby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Ormesby

John Smith 27 b.ca 1874, Nth Ormesby, Yorkshire, Coal Hawker
Clara Smith 21

Address:- 46 Pierson Street



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Nov 2011 01:00


Marriages Sep 1888 (>99%)

BAGE Annie Middlesbro' 9d 774
WOOD Nathaniel Langburn Middlesbro' 9d 774



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Nov 2011 00:58

Margee


either born before mother's marriage or a remarriage of mother?


For reference:-

1891 Census

Name: Clara Bage
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Nathaniel Wood
Mother's Name: Annie Wood
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Middlesborough
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Middlesborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough

Nathaniel Wood 33
Annie Wood 38
Clara Bage 12
George Bage 6
Henry Wood 2
William Bentle 20



sylvia

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 Nov 2011 00:46

How could she have a brother named Wood if her maiden name was Bage?