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Charles James Lewis, born 1919? possibly Northern Ireland. Married Mary Hill in Jan.1948 St Helens, Lancashire. Possibly a sergeant in British army seconded to ATS. Only other fact is that his fathers name was Samuel.

Arrested for bigany sometime around 1951/52. Not uncommon after WW11 with such massive displacement.

Any assistance appreciated
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What exactly are you after Brian? His current location? Ancestors?

danny This man was born 1919 .....every possibility hes no longer with us .....

Have you had any luck finding a birth for him Brian and did he marry this lady ....I know you say he was arrested for bigamy but was he guilty?

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1948 (>99%)
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Barrow May Birchall St.Helens 10f 915
Birchall John Barrow St.Helens 10f 915
>>>>>>>>>>>HILL Mary Lewis St. Helens 10f 915
>>>>>>>>>>>>Lewis Charles J Hill St.Helens 10f 915

Thanks for the replies.
Charles married my mother in 1948 and was apparently found guilty of Bigamy in '51/'52 and jailed for 6 months which was the standard sentence. His occupation was in the glass making industry, a job found for him by my maternal grandfather. Opon his return from jail apparently my grandfather sent him packing.My mother re-married some 5 years later and I was subsequently adopted and took my mothers now married name.
Family have since told me that he was already married to a lady in Northern Island with children. I was also told that he met my mother whilst she was in the ATS and he was an Army Sergeant. Unfortunately you know as much as I do as this is all I have.

Really, I suppose I would like to know his history and his family. Do I have any half brothers/sisters etc.

I do have the marrage cert. Jan 31st 1948. St. Helens
Charles James Lewis aged 28. Living at my grandparents home.

Brian,

Have you checked local newspapers about the time that your father was prosecuted/jailed for bigamy. Newspapers of the day used to report such matters and if you do manage to find a report of the case it may give some details of your fathers origin and his first marriage/family.

Good luck.

Thank you, good idea :-)
I am new to this matter so all information and recommendations greatfully received

If he married in Ireland could this be a possible for his first marriage?

Name: Charles James Lewis
Registration District: Rathdrum
Event Type: MARRIAGES
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1939
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101578
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 653
Digital Folder Number: 4199370
Image Number: 00174

This lady is on the same page so a possibilty for his spouse?

Name: Martha Hepenstall
Registration District: Rathdrum
Event Type: MARRIAGES
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1939
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101578
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 653
Digital Folder Number: 4199370
Image Number: 00171



Or this one?

Name: Elizabeth Frances Evans
Registration District: Rathdrum
Event Type: MARRIAGES
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1939
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101578
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 653
Digital Folder Number: 4199370
Image Number: 00167



And the other male on the same page

Name: Thomas Francis Evans
Registration District: Rathdrum
Event Type: MARRIAGES
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1939
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101578
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 653
Digital Folder Number: 4199370
Image Number: 00167

Wow........
I am a little overwhelmed.....I have no idea if correct or how to check but I will try.
Thank you :-)

You will need these certificates to check

But to find out if you have half brothers and sisters you will need to cross match his other wives maiden names with her new married name

Take the bull by the horns and do it ...then come back and we can try to help again

Thank you...........
One Simple question. The use of the word certificate implies official records? Can these be obtained on the net or does it need a physical trip to Ireland

Second question. What is the implication of the second males record Thomas Francis Evans.

Sorry to be such a clux but you are so well informed.
Thanks again.

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Ok................The second man on the page will be the other ladies hubby!!!

each page has two male two female and each is a married pair ...but often you dont know which one belongs to which coz until 1912 IN ENGLAND they didnt tell you but in 1912 they paired them up ......like the post I gave you at 8.57 this morning

As for irish records I dont know havent started that part of my tree yet!


You are not a clux but stick with one thread on these people and keep asking questions ....also I work as do others so I check back when i get home ......so time delays in answers are normal.....

This is where you can come and chat with other members about all things related to family history and researching, not for looking up Ancestors and Relatives. The Find Ancestors and Find Living Relatives Boards are intended for that and there are lots of members who will help you .

That said, Irish Birth details are available on the Family Search website. Northern Ireland as we know it today did nor come into being until 1921 but when you say NI do you have any idea of a locations?

The Family Search website has Irish civil registrations for this period but a location may help to pinpoint the one you want.

Once you have the details then you should be able to order the cert from the Irish GRO. http://www.groireland.ie/

HERE YOU ARE BRIAN SOMEONE PUT THIS ON YOUR OTHER THREAD USE ONLY THIS WEBSITE

use only this website for this mans marriage certificate nowhere else they charge the right price others charge terrible prices

I will try to obtain the certificates and then re-assess. Thanks for all your immediate assistance :-D

Brian you can order photocopies of the register cheaper than certificates. Go to the GOIRE link that KempinaThermalhat has given you and download the application form. Give the information required i.e.

Name: >>>>>>>>>Charles James Lewis
Registration District: >>>>>>>>>Rathdrum
Event Type: >>>>>>>>MARRIAGES
Registration Quarter and Year: >>>>>>>>>Apr - Jun 1939
Volume Number: >>>>>>>>>>>>2
Page Number: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>653


I am not sure if they are able to accept online requests using credit cards yet. I 'phoned them a couple of years ago when I was ordering some certificates and they told me that they would accept payment in euros if you mailed the payment and application by "signed for" mail. The service was fairly quick.

Brian, Have a look here

https://familysearch.org/search/records#count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3ALewis~%20%2Bbirth_place%3A%22Rathdrum%2C%20Ireland%22~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1939-1949~

I searched for births for Lewis in Rathdrum 1944 +/- 5 years and there is only 1 and the mother's maiden name is Hempenstall. So it looks like Charles married Martha.

Good Luck!

Thank you, thats marvellous. You are very good at this..........I will come back on this thread if anything exciting happens.
Thank you again :-)