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hello all.....
I am looking for anyone who can help me with my branch of the smiths... im am from runcorn in cheshire and i know my great great grandfather is a man called Thomas Henry Smith he was born in Peover in cheshire (Knutsford/Lymm area) He Married Annie Acton in 1907 in a place called Lower peover st oswald (information from marriage certificate)
He died in 27/6/1957 at 37 piction Avenue Runcorn cheshire.

I know from Thomas Henry Smith birth certificate his parent are Thomas Smith and Mary Owen
Thomas had four sisters
Annie who was born in 1871
Edith who was born in 1877
Mary who was born 1882
and Hannah born 1890
All dates and siblings have come from the 1891 and the 1901 census

i do not know what has happend to any of Thomas Henry's sister please help.

i am also stuck as i have found to marriage certificates for Thomas Smith and Mary Owen i do not know how to telll which is my thomas and mary any further info would be apprechiated!

thank you to all who read and thank you more to anyone who can help
kind regards suzanne

????

Groom's Name: Thomas Smith
Groom's Birth Date: 1838
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 33
Bride's Name: Mary Owen
Bride's Birth Date: 1844
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 27
Marriage Date: 28 Feb 1871
Marriage Place: St. Oswald, Winwick, Lancashire, England
Groom's Father's Name: James Smith
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Thomas Owen
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01368-0
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1885710
Reference Number: p154 rn 307

this is one of the marriage certificates i have also i have another which i cant find now but i dont know whi8ch is the correct one and i cant find a birht record for thomas either. thanxs for you help xo

Is this the family in 1881?

Name: Thomas Smith
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Lymm, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Plumbley
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address: Station Yd
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Labourer

Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Knutsford
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3511
Folio: 30
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Smith 41
Mary Smith 27 - born: Bowden, Cheshire
Annie E. Smith 10 - born: Bollington, Cheshire
Edith Smith 4 - born: Bollington, Cheshire

1891 for ref:-

Name: Thomas Smith
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Lymm, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Plumley
Ecclesiastical parish: Peover Inferior St Oswalds
Town: Plumley
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Knutsford
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2828
Folio: 118
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Smith 53
Mary Smith 39 - (1852) born: Bowdon, Cheshire
Mary Smith 9
Thomas H Smith 6
Hannah E Smith 1 born: Peover, Cheshire

Age of Mary doesn't fit with marriage so I wonder if he married twice?

Births Jun 1889 (>99%)
Smith Hannah Eliza Altrincham 8a 206a

................so Hannah had middle name Eliza. This may help find her later.


If she stayed in Cheshire, then this is a possible marriage:-

Marriages Dec 1908 (>99%)
BRITCLIFFE David Bucklow 8a 354
HOULDEN Henrietta Bucklow 8a 354
RILEY George Bucklow 8a 354
<<<< SMITH Hannah Eliza Bucklow 8a 354

The district Bucklow spans the boundaries of the counties of Cheshire and Lancashire

Lymm would come under Altrincham district .....( narrows it down a bit )


possibles ....
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Births Dec 1837
Smith Thomas Altrincham 14 18

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Births Mar 1838
Smith Thomas Altrincham 19 1

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Births Sep 1838
SMITH Thomas Altrincham 19 3

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Births Jun 1839
Smith Thomas Altrincham 19 6

1911 (looks like she married George Riley)

RILEY, George Head Married M 23 1888 Shiftman Chemical Works Daresbury Cheshire VIEW
RILEY, Hannah Eliza Wife Married 2 years F 21 1890 Plumbley Cheshire VIEW
RILEY, Frank Son Single M 2 1909 Tabley Cheshire VIEW
RILEY, George Son Single M 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Lostock Gralam Cheshire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
21685 Reference:
RG14PN21685 RG78PN1291 RD447 SD2 ED19 SN147

Registration District:
Northwich Sub District:
Northwich Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Lostock Gralam

Address:
25 School Lane County:
Cheshire

2 children - both living


possible children born after 1911:-

Births Mar 1914 (>99%)
RILEY Thomas Smith Northwich 8a 468
Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Riley Kathleen M Smith Northwich 8a 438
Births Mar 1922 (>99%)
Riley Thomas H Smith Northwich 8a 408
Births Dec 1930 (>99%)
Riley Lilian T Smith Northwich 8a 330

Looks like the couple in 1871:-

Name: Thomas Smith
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Lodger
Spouse's Name: Mary Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Lymm, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Bollington
Ecclesiastical parish: Bollington
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Lymm
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 33
Piece: 3686
Folio: 17
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
Matha Newton 38
William Newton 8
Mary J Newton 4

Thomas Smith 36
Mary Smith 24 - (1847) born: Sinderland, Cheshire

Richard Smith - born: Delamere, Cheshire

Thanx for all your help guys..... can any of you find a brith record for annie elizabeth smith found a marriage she married harry jackson in 1900 a st oswalds lower peover but cant find birth records cant find records on edith or mary smith! thank you for all the info on hannah

1901 England Census
Name: Pinkie E Smith (Believe it or not, the image is actually Annie, but if you see it for yourself you can understand the transcription.)
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Smith
Mother's Name: Mary Smith
Gender: Female
Where born: Plumbley, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Plumbley
Ecclesiastical parish: Lower Peover St Oswald
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: Station Cottages

Occupation:

Registration district: Bucklow
Sub-registration district: Knutsford
Piece: 3330
Folio: 43
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Smith 65 - Platelayer (on Railway); Plumbley
Mary Smith 47
Pinkie E Smith 11
Annie E Jackson 29 <<<<<<<<<<<
Harry Jackson 29 - son-in-law

????
1841 England Census
Name: Thomas Smith
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Great Budworth
Hundred: Bucklow
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: Smoker [I think!], Plumbley

Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Knutsford
Piece: 92
Book: 21
Folio: 4
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Smith 20 - Head, Publican
Thomas Smith 5
Elizabeth Smith 9 MO

Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%)
Cross Sarah Ellen Northwich 8a 468
Jackson Harry Northwich 8a 468
Sherratt George Ernest Northwich 8a 468
Smith Annie Elizabeth Northwich 8a 468

1861 ?
Name: Thomas Smith
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Lymm, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Millington
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address: 52 Nag Lane:

Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Lymm
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 54
Piece: 2592
Folio: 18
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name
George Smith 50 - 1811 Millington, Cheshire,
Hannah Smith 52 - Sister
Thomas Smith 27

That's lucky!
You now know that Thomas' father had a brother and a sister.

???

Name: Thomas Smith
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1834
Christening Date: 27 Aug 1834
Christening Place: Siddington, Cheshire, England
Father's Name: Richard Smith
Mother's Name: Mary


Thomas - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 27 AUG 1834 Siddington, Cheshire,
Father: Richard Smith
Mother: Mary

1851?
Name: Thomas Smith
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Servant
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Lymm, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Bollington
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Lymm
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Piece: 2163
Folio: 44
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Shaw 70
Elizebeth Shaw 68
Martha Shaw 17
Thomas Shaw 18
Thomas Smith 17

incorrect ref to Annie Elizabeth's birth deleted

sorry Suzanne - why on earth did I think she was born in 1890!!

lincashireAnn Annie E Smith according to the 1881 cenus was born around 1871 so 1890 is well out... thanx for all your help

hello THANK YOU to all who have help the infomation given some i have myself but have not been sure that the people are my ancestors,would like to know who Thomas's parents are???

would also like to find out what happened to thomas henry's two other sisters edith born 1877 and mary born 1882

i think Annie (Elizabeth) Smith married Harry Jackson and i it makes sense to think that Hannah (Eliza) Smith marries George Riley.
If there any decendant out there who belive they are connected to Annie E Smith or Hannah E Smith please feel free to contact me
kind regarrds Suzanne