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HELP I HAVE SMITH IN MY FAMILY!!!

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jansmith

jansmith Report 28 Sep 2011 21:40

Suzanne have you tried search trees above to see if they are in anyone's tree so you could send them a message

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 28 Sep 2011 21:21

There is also this 1851 which matches the 1841. It is quite possible that they are the same Thomas recorded by his parents, and his employer.


1851 England Census
Name: Thomas Smith
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Smith
Mother's Name: Anne Smith
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Knutsford, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Tabley Superior
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: Tabley Superior

Occupation: None stated

Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Lymm

Piece: 2163
Folio: 241
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
John Smith 34 - Farmer of 72 acres
Anne Smith 33
Thomas Smith 15
Elizabeth Smith 10
Peter Thomason 50 - labourer
James Rustidge 24 - labourer
John Rustidge 17 - labourer
Joseph Thomason 11 - servant
Anne Rider 16 - house servant

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 28 Sep 2011 20:20

hello THANK YOU to all who have help the infomation given some i have myself but have not been sure that the people are my ancestors,would like to know who Thomas's parents are???

would also like to find out what happened to thomas henry's two other sisters edith born 1877 and mary born 1882

i think Annie (Elizabeth) Smith married Harry Jackson and i it makes sense to think that Hannah (Eliza) Smith marries George Riley.
If there any decendant out there who belive they are connected to Annie E Smith or Hannah E Smith please feel free to contact me
kind regarrds Suzanne

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 28 Sep 2011 19:47

lincashireAnn Annie E Smith according to the 1881 cenus was born around 1871 so 1890 is well out... thanx for all your help

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 27 Sep 2011 23:44

incorrect ref to Annie Elizabeth's birth deleted

sorry Suzanne - why on earth did I think she was born in 1890!!

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Sep 2011 23:08

1851?
Name: Thomas Smith
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Servant
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Lymm, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Bollington
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Lymm
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Piece: 2163
Folio: 44
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Shaw 70
Elizebeth Shaw 68
Martha Shaw 17
Thomas Shaw 18
Thomas Smith 17

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Sep 2011 23:01

???

Name: Thomas Smith
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1834
Christening Date: 27 Aug 1834
Christening Place: Siddington, Cheshire, England
Father's Name: Richard Smith
Mother's Name: Mary


Thomas - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 27 AUG 1834 Siddington, Cheshire,
Father: Richard Smith
Mother: Mary

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Sep 2011 22:56

1861 ?
Name: Thomas Smith
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Lymm, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Millington
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address: 52 Nag Lane:

Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Lymm
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 54
Piece: 2592
Folio: 18
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name
George Smith 50 - 1811 Millington, Cheshire,
Hannah Smith 52 - Sister
Thomas Smith 27

That's lucky!
You now know that Thomas' father had a brother and a sister.

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Sep 2011 22:49

Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%)
Cross Sarah Ellen Northwich 8a 468
Jackson Harry Northwich 8a 468
Sherratt George Ernest Northwich 8a 468
Smith Annie Elizabeth Northwich 8a 468

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 27 Sep 2011 22:44

????
1841 England Census
Name: Thomas Smith
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Great Budworth
Hundred: Bucklow
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: Smoker [I think!], Plumbley

Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Knutsford
Piece: 92
Book: 21
Folio: 4
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Smith 20 - Head, Publican
Thomas Smith 5
Elizabeth Smith 9 MO

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 27 Sep 2011 22:33

1901 England Census
Name: Pinkie E Smith (Believe it or not, the image is actually Annie, but if you see it for yourself you can understand the transcription.)
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Smith
Mother's Name: Mary Smith
Gender: Female
Where born: Plumbley, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Plumbley
Ecclesiastical parish: Lower Peover St Oswald
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: Station Cottages

Occupation:

Registration district: Bucklow
Sub-registration district: Knutsford
Piece: 3330
Folio: 43
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Smith 65 - Platelayer (on Railway); Plumbley
Mary Smith 47
Pinkie E Smith 11
Annie E Jackson 29 <<<<<<<<<<<
Harry Jackson 29 - son-in-law

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 27 Sep 2011 22:31

Thanx for all your help guys..... can any of you find a brith record for annie elizabeth smith found a marriage she married harry jackson in 1900 a st oswalds lower peover but cant find birth records cant find records on edith or mary smith! thank you for all the info on hannah

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Sep 2011 22:04

Looks like the couple in 1871:-

Name: Thomas Smith
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Lodger
Spouse's Name: Mary Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Lymm, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Bollington
Ecclesiastical parish: Bollington
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Lymm
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 33
Piece: 3686
Folio: 17
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
Matha Newton 38
William Newton 8
Mary J Newton 4

Thomas Smith 36
Mary Smith 24 - (1847) born: Sinderland, Cheshire

Richard Smith - born: Delamere, Cheshire

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Sep 2011 21:53

1911 (looks like she married George Riley)

RILEY, George Head Married M 23 1888 Shiftman Chemical Works Daresbury Cheshire VIEW
RILEY, Hannah Eliza Wife Married 2 years F 21 1890 Plumbley Cheshire VIEW
RILEY, Frank Son Single M 2 1909 Tabley Cheshire VIEW
RILEY, George Son Single M 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Lostock Gralam Cheshire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
21685 Reference:
RG14PN21685 RG78PN1291 RD447 SD2 ED19 SN147

Registration District:
Northwich Sub District:
Northwich Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Lostock Gralam

Address:
25 School Lane County:
Cheshire

2 children - both living


possible children born after 1911:-

Births Mar 1914 (>99%)
RILEY Thomas Smith Northwich 8a 468
Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Riley Kathleen M Smith Northwich 8a 438
Births Mar 1922 (>99%)
Riley Thomas H Smith Northwich 8a 408
Births Dec 1930 (>99%)
Riley Lilian T Smith Northwich 8a 330

Mike *

Mike * Report 27 Sep 2011 21:48

Lymm would come under Altrincham district .....( narrows it down a bit )


possibles ....
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Births Dec 1837
Smith Thomas Altrincham 14 18

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Births Mar 1838
Smith Thomas Altrincham 19 1

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Births Sep 1838
SMITH Thomas Altrincham 19 3

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Births Jun 1839
Smith Thomas Altrincham 19 6

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Sep 2011 21:47

Births Jun 1889 (>99%)
Smith Hannah Eliza Altrincham 8a 206a

................so Hannah had middle name Eliza. This may help find her later.


If she stayed in Cheshire, then this is a possible marriage:-

Marriages Dec 1908 (>99%)
BRITCLIFFE David Bucklow 8a 354
HOULDEN Henrietta Bucklow 8a 354
RILEY George Bucklow 8a 354
<<<< SMITH Hannah Eliza Bucklow 8a 354

The district Bucklow spans the boundaries of the counties of Cheshire and Lancashire

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Sep 2011 21:39

Age of Mary doesn't fit with marriage so I wonder if he married twice?

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Sep 2011 21:36

1891 for ref:-

Name: Thomas Smith
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Lymm, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Plumley
Ecclesiastical parish: Peover Inferior St Oswalds
Town: Plumley
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Knutsford
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2828
Folio: 118
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Smith 53
Mary Smith 39 - (1852) born: Bowdon, Cheshire
Mary Smith 9
Thomas H Smith 6
Hannah E Smith 1 born: Peover, Cheshire

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Sep 2011 21:33

Is this the family in 1881?

Name: Thomas Smith
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Lymm, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Plumbley
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address: Station Yd
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Labourer

Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Knutsford
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3511
Folio: 30
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Smith 41
Mary Smith 27 - born: Bowden, Cheshire
Annie E. Smith 10 - born: Bollington, Cheshire
Edith Smith 4 - born: Bollington, Cheshire

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 27 Sep 2011 20:20

this is one of the marriage certificates i have also i have another which i cant find now but i dont know whi8ch is the correct one and i cant find a birht record for thomas either. thanxs for you help xo