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Peter
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28 Aug 2011 19:29 |
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Ah I suspect the Maxey website is for burials taken from headstone inscriptions which may be why Elizabeth Vickers (Smitheringale) is not shown; the NBI shows she is buried there in Maxey.
I suspect that 1858 death is Richard. However the NBI only has burials there for 1813-1850.
Thanks again,
Peter
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28 Aug 2011 17:12 |
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This death is a possible? and is correct for the burial that Jillian posted on page one of this thread
Name: Richard Vickers Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1858 Registration district: Bourne Inferred County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 213
BOURNE REGISTRATION DISTRICT Registration County : Lincolnshire. Created : 1.7.1837. Abolished : 1.1.1934 (incorporated into Bourne & South Kesteven registration district). Sub-districts : Aslackby, Bourne, Corby, Deeping GRO volumes : XIV (1837–51), 7a (1852–1933). Registers now held by : Lincolnshire.
Market Deeping, Deeping St. James, come under Bourne registration district and are just east of maxey about 1 or 2 miles away and Deaths have to be registered in the district the event took place
Roy
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28 Aug 2011 16:40 |
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I got the burial from http://www.maxeychurch.co.uk/burialrecords.htm
And the GRO record from ancestry
Their is a Richard Vickers on this site but not your richard but possibly related in some way, also some Smitheringale Burials but could not find Elizabeth Vickers who married a Smitheringale, have a look your self you never no?
still looking for the rest of the family
Roy
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Peter
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28 Aug 2011 16:27 |
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Oh wow, thanks Roy! Where do you get this information?
Do your sources have the burial for Edward, and his parents?
Thanks again,
Peter
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28 Aug 2011 16:08 |
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Burial at St Peters Church Maxey
Vickers - George 26/7/1897 Age 76
And the GRO info
Name: George Vickers Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1897 Age at Death: 76 Registration district: Peterborough Inferred County: Northamptonshire Volume: 3b Page: 153
Roy
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Peter
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28 Aug 2011 14:02 |
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Thanks again Roy,
is there a way of finding the death for the parents of the family (Richard and Elizabeth Vickers). I notice there is a possible burial for Richard but no age is given. Also, where do you get this burial information from?
And, can we find the deaths of George and Edward Vickers?
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Peter
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27 Aug 2011 07:23 |
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Peter, the northampton marriage does not cover the area where the couple where born or lived although i would not dismiss the marriage just yet, but Edward from Maxey Jane from Helpstone, (the next village) and acording to census's lived their lives in Helpstone, it would seem odd if they married outside their own area, Maxey and Helpstone come under Peterborough district see below
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/peterborough.html
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http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/northampton.html
To see the parishes covered under Northampton District
Roy
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Peter
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26 Aug 2011 23:25 |
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Edward Vickers born 1822 - is this his marriage? If so, why were his first children born before this date? (SEE 1851)
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1849 (>99%) Driver Rebecca Northampton 15 433 Scan available - click to view Elmer Eliza Northampton 15 433 Scan available - click to view Hollidge Richard Northampton 15 433 Scan available - click to view Munns Charles Northampton 15 433 Scan available - click to view Roe Jane Northampton 15 433 Scan available - click to view Vickers Edward Northampton 15 433 Scan available - click to view Warren Elizabeth Northampton 15 433 Scan available - click to view White William Northampton 15 433 Scan available - click to view
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Peter
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26 Aug 2011 23:08 |
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Hi Everyone,
Evidently I need to purchase Edward Vickers' marriage cert to Jane to find out his father's name. Is there a 'cheaper' way to confirm this?
Roy, I am already in contact with Amanda from ancestry but she has no further info.
Richard Vickers and Elizabeth Petchel were married in 1812, AND their daughter Elizabeth married John Smitheringale in Spalding, Lincolnshire in 1832 ... I already have lots of into on this branch of my family however.
With this, I also have an example of the SAME person being recorded twice with another relation of mine but this was in 1881.
So, a little confusing lol.
Thank you again for this continued input and assistance.
Peter
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26 Aug 2011 10:20 |
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The census,s above although from two different sites, different transcription's,
The census info that i provided came from Ancestry and the family were the nearest to what Peter's original request was for,
Peter, asked for a Richard Vickers Married to an Elizabeth (Petchel)? i have not got marriage details, With daughter Elizabeth born 1813 and Edward born 1822 and baptised in Maxey Northamtonshire,
I have not found Elizabeth but have found a Richard married to a Elizabeth with son's Edward and George and living in Maxey, Edward is down on the census in1851 as Married so could have been the same Edward as Maddie found
The census info that Maddie provided is for an Edward Vickers born about the same time at Maxey but living at Helpstone which is a village just up the road from Maxey. This Edward interestingly names two children George and Eliza but has not yet been linked 100% to Richard and Elizabeth Vickers at Maxey.
I wonder what everyone thinks, Hope this helps,
Roy
There is a tree on ancesrty
Elizabeth Vickers Amanda Gordon Family Tree Birth: 1816 - Maxey, Northamptonshire, England Marriage: Abt 1833 - Maxey, Northamptonshire, England Death: Mar 1848 - Peterborough, England Spouse: John Smitheringale
Amanda Gordon Sumter, South Carolina Last log in: Over 6 months ago
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Madmeg
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25 Aug 2011 23:58 |
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Hi Peter, no he won't be on the census twice. Likely that one of the helpers has used Ancestry and the other has used Find My Past, and they have been transcribed differently.
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Peter
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25 Aug 2011 23:52 |
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Thanks for this as your help is much appreciated. Wow, anything else to be found? Although I am so happy with what you have provided.
Thanks
Peter
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25 Aug 2011 09:22 |
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1871 mistranscribed again, must be somthing about this family :-S
Name: George Fickers Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Fickers Gender: Male Where born: Maxey, Northamptonshire, England Civil parish: Maxey Town: Maxey County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Registration district: Peterborough Sub-registration district: Crowland ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Household schedule number: 56 Piece: 1521 Folio: 80 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age George Fickers 51 Mary Fickers 52 Louisa Kendall 12 down as daughter John Geo Kicker 6 son
Mary Kendall Oct-Nov-Dec 1863 Peterborough Northamptonshire
George Vickers Oct-Nov-Dec 1863 Peterborough Northamptonshire
in 61 George is a lodger with the Garford family
Roy
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25 Aug 2011 09:12 |
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Forgot to say; On the 1851 George Vickars is down as unmarried Edward Vickars is down as married
Roy
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Peter
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24 Aug 2011 23:51 |
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Oh wow thank you ... this is amazing!
So, Edward Vickers appears on the 1851 census twice? Is that correct? Do we know when he died?
Also, where did George Vickers, born 1819 spring from? Can he be spotted in later census returns?
Finally, I am really interested to see when Elizabeth Vickers died. Is she still alive in 1861?
Thank you again, as this is fabulous!
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24 Aug 2011 20:28 |
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And again in 1851 Name: Richard Vicrars Age: 64 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1787 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Vicrars Gender: M (Male) Where born: Maxey, Northamptonshire, England Civil parish: Maxey Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Peterborough Sub-registration district: Stilton ED, institution, or vessel: 4a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 52 Piece: 1747 Folio: 730 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Richard Vicrars 64 Elizabeth Vicrars 67 born: Corby, Lincolnshire George Vicrars 32 born: Market Deeping, Lincolnshire Edward Vicrars 29 born: Maxey, Northamptonshire Roy
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24 Aug 2011 20:15 |
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Mis transcribed in 1841 image say's Vickers
Name: Richard Pickars Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791 Gender: Male Where born: Northamptonshire, England Civil parish: Maxey Hundred: Nassaburgh County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Peterborough Sub-registration district: Crowland Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 816 Book: 1 Folio: 4 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Richard Pickars 50 Elizabeth Pickars 55 George Pickars 20 Edward Pickars 19
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Maddie
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24 Aug 2011 20:10 |
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jane BMD Search result details
Civil Registration event: Death Name: VICKERS, Jane Registration District: Help Peterborough County: Northamptonshire Year of Registration: 1890 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at death: 70 Volume No: 3B Page No: 165 Printer friendly version
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Maddie
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24 Aug 2011 20:07 |
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1881 VICKERS, Edward Head Married M 62 1819 Ag Lab Maxey Northamptonshire VIEW VICKERS, Jane Wife Married F 61 1820 Helpston Northamptonshire VIEW VICKERS, Francis Son Single M 26 1855 Shoe Maker Helpston Northamptonshire VIEW VICKERS, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 17 1864 Paper Weigher Helpston Northamptonshire VIEW HALES, Jane Visitor Single F 5 1876 Scholar Higham Northamptonshire VIEW RG number: RG11 Piece: 1598 Folio: 61 Page: 16 Registration District: Peterborough Sub District: Crowland Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Helpstone Municipal Borough: Address: Station Road, Helpstone County: Northamptonshire
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JustDinosaurJill
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24 Aug 2011 20:05 |
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How about this death?
Richard Vickers England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991 burial: 20 Oct 1858 —Maxey, Northampton, England record title: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991 name: Richard Vickers gender: Male burial date: 20 Oct 1858 burial place: Maxey, Northampton, England indexing project (batch) number: I06511-7 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1999884
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