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Hi there,

I am looking for information on my ancestors Richard Vickers and Elizabeth Petchel who married in Maxey, Northamptonshire on 24 Nov 1812.

I am looking for their deaths and to see if they appear on the census.

They had two children:

Elizabeth (1813-1848)
Edward (1822-????)

The two children, who had a large age gap, were baptised in Maxey, Northamptonshire and help on Edward would also be appreciated as I know nothing else about him.

Elizabeth is my ancestor and I have a lot of info on her.

Thanks,

Peter

Could this be the death of Richard Vickers???

Name: Richard Vickers
Date of Death: June 1845
Place of Death: Oundle
Vol: 15 Page: 252

edward
1851
1851 census - household transcription
Person: VICKERS, Edward
Address: Quens Head Beer House, Helpstone

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Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
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VICKERS, Edward Head Married M 28 1823 Agricultural Labourer
Maxey
Northamptonshire VIEW
VICKERS, Jane Wife Married F 31 1820
Helpstone
Northamptonshire VIEW
VICKERS, Fanny Daughter F 5 1846 Scholar
Helpstone
Northamptonshire VIEW
VICKERS, George Son M 3 1848
Helpstone
Northamptonshire VIEW
VICKERS, Eliza Daughter F 1 1850
Helpstone
Northamptonshire VIEW
RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1747 Folio:
708 Page:
14

Registration District:
Peterborough Sub District:
Croyland Enumeration District:
3 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Helpstone Municipal Borough:
Address:
Quens Head Beer House, Helpstone County:
Northamptonshire

edwards baptism
Edward Vickers

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


residence: Maxey, Northampton, England
parents: Richard Vickers, Elizabeth Vickers

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Edward Vickers
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 05 Apr 1822
baptism/christening place: Maxey, Northampton, England
father's name: Richard Vickers
mother's name: Elizabeth Vickers
indexing project (batch) number: I00716-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 6128066

Hey, thanks for this.

I really have no idea if the 1845 death is my ancestor. I would like to confirm though. Would he be on 1841 ... that may help possibly?

And thanks for the info on Edward ... are you able to spot him and the family in other census returns please?

Thanks for this. So nice to get new information.

1861
VICKERS, Edward Head Married M 40 1821 Agricultural Labourer
Maxey
Northamptonshire VIEW
VICKERS, Jane Wife Married F 42 1819
Helpstone
Northamptonshire VIEW
VICKERS, George Son Unmarried M 13 1848 Employed On A Farm
Helpstone
Northamptonshire VIEW
VICKERS, Eliza Daughter F 11 1850 Scholar
Helpstone
Northamptonshire VIEW
VICKERS, Francis Son M 5 1856 Scholar
Helpstone
Northamptonshire VIEW
VICKERS, Mary Daughter F 4 1857 Scholar
Helpstone
Northamptonshire VIEW
VICKERS, Jane Daughter F 1 1860
Helpstone
Northamptonshire VIEW
RG number:
RG09 Piece:
969 Folio:
54 Page:
4

Registration District:
Peterborough Sub District:
3 Crowland Enumeration District:
12 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Helpston Municipal Borough:
Address:
Stamford Road, Helpston County:
Northamptonshire


1871
VICKERS, Edward Head M 49 1822 Northamptonshire VIEW
VICKERS, Jame Wife F 51 1820 Northamptonshire VIEW
VICKERS, Frank Son M 16 1855 Northamptonshire VIEW
VICKERS, Mary Daughter F 14 1857 Northamptonshire VIEW
VICKERS, Jame Daughter F 10 1861 Northamptonshire VIEW
VICKERS, Elizabeth Daughter F 7 1864 Northamptonshire VIEW
RG number:
RG10 Piece:
1521 Folio:
71 Page:
28

Registration District:
Peterborough Sub District:
Crowland Enumeration District:
12 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Helpston Municipal Borough:
Address:
School's House, Helpston County:
Northamptonshire

How about this death?

Richard Vickers
England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991

burial: 20 Oct 1858 —Maxey, Northampton, England

record title: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
name: Richard Vickers
gender: Male
burial date: 20 Oct 1858
burial place: Maxey, Northampton, England
indexing project (batch) number: I06511-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1999884

Jill

1881
VICKERS, Edward Head Married M 62 1819 Ag Lab
Maxey
Northamptonshire VIEW
VICKERS, Jane Wife Married F 61 1820
Helpston
Northamptonshire VIEW
VICKERS, Francis Son Single M 26 1855 Shoe Maker
Helpston
Northamptonshire VIEW
VICKERS, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 17 1864 Paper Weigher
Helpston
Northamptonshire VIEW
HALES, Jane Visitor Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Higham
Northamptonshire VIEW
RG number:
RG11 Piece:
1598 Folio:
61 Page:
16

Registration District:
Peterborough Sub District:
Crowland Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Helpstone Municipal Borough:
Address:
Station Road, Helpstone County:
Northamptonshire

jane
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Civil Registration event: Death
Name: VICKERS, Jane
Registration District: Help Peterborough
County: Northamptonshire
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 70
Volume No: 3B
Page No: 165
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Mis transcribed in 1841 image say's Vickers

Name: Richard Pickars
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Maxey
Hundred: Nassaburgh
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub-registration district: Crowland
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 816
Book: 1
Folio: 4
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Pickars 50
Elizabeth Pickars 55
George Pickars 20
Edward Pickars 19


Roy

And again in 1851
Name: Richard Vicrars
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1787
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Vicrars
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Maxey, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Maxey
Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub-registration district: Stilton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 52
Piece: 1747
Folio: 730
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Vicrars 64
Elizabeth Vicrars 67 born: Corby, Lincolnshire
George Vicrars 32 born: Market Deeping, Lincolnshire
Edward Vicrars 29 born: Maxey, Northamptonshire


Roy

Oh wow thank you ... this is amazing!

So, Edward Vickers appears on the 1851 census twice? Is that correct? Do we know when he died?

Also, where did George Vickers, born 1819 spring from? Can he be spotted in later census returns?

Finally, I am really interested to see when Elizabeth Vickers died. Is she still alive in 1861?

Thank you again, as this is fabulous!

Forgot to say; On the 1851 George Vickars is down as unmarried
Edward Vickars is down as married

Roy

1871 mistranscribed again, must be somthing about this family :-S

Name: George Fickers
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Fickers
Gender: Male
Where born: Maxey, Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: Maxey
Town: Maxey
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Registration district: Peterborough
Sub-registration district: Crowland
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 56
Piece: 1521
Folio: 80
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
George Fickers 51
Mary Fickers 52
Louisa Kendall 12 down as daughter
John Geo Kicker 6 son

Mary Kendall Oct-Nov-Dec 1863 Peterborough Northamptonshire

George Vickers Oct-Nov-Dec 1863 Peterborough Northamptonshire

in 61 George is a lodger with the Garford family



Roy

Thanks for this as your help is much appreciated. Wow, anything else to be found? Although I am so happy with what you have provided.

Thanks

Peter

Hi Peter, no he won't be on the census twice. Likely that one of the helpers has used Ancestry and the other has used Find My Past, and they have been transcribed differently.

The census,s above although from two different sites, different transcription's,

The census info that i provided came from Ancestry and the family were the nearest to what Peter's original request was for,

Peter, asked for a Richard Vickers Married to an Elizabeth (Petchel)? i have not got marriage details, With daughter Elizabeth born 1813 and Edward born 1822 and baptised in Maxey Northamtonshire,

I have not found Elizabeth but have found a Richard married to a Elizabeth with son's Edward and George and living in Maxey,
Edward is down on the census in1851 as Married so could have been the same Edward as Maddie found

The census info that Maddie provided is for an Edward Vickers born about the same time at Maxey but living at Helpstone which is a village just up the road from Maxey. This Edward interestingly names two children George and Eliza but has not yet been linked 100% to Richard and Elizabeth Vickers at Maxey.

I wonder what everyone thinks,
Hope this helps,

Roy

There is a tree on ancesrty

Elizabeth Vickers
Amanda Gordon Family Tree
Birth: 1816 - Maxey, Northamptonshire, England
Marriage: Abt 1833 - Maxey, Northamptonshire, England
Death: Mar 1848 - Peterborough, England
Spouse: John Smitheringale

Amanda Gordon
Sumter, South Carolina
Last log in: Over 6 months ago

Hi Everyone,

Evidently I need to purchase Edward Vickers' marriage cert to Jane to find out his father's name. Is there a 'cheaper' way to confirm this?

Roy, I am already in contact with Amanda from ancestry but she has no further info.

Richard Vickers and Elizabeth Petchel were married in 1812, AND their daughter Elizabeth married John Smitheringale in Spalding, Lincolnshire in 1832 ... I already have lots of into on this branch of my family however.

With this, I also have an example of the SAME person being recorded twice with another relation of mine but this was in 1881.

So, a little confusing lol.

Thank you again for this continued input and assistance.

Peter

Edward Vickers born 1822 - is this his marriage? If so, why were his first children born before this date? (SEE 1851)


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1849 (>99%)
Driver Rebecca Northampton 15 433 Scan available - click to view
Elmer Eliza Northampton 15 433 Scan available - click to view
Hollidge Richard Northampton 15 433 Scan available - click to view
Munns Charles Northampton 15 433 Scan available - click to view
Roe Jane Northampton 15 433 Scan available - click to view
Vickers Edward Northampton 15 433 Scan available - click to view
Warren Elizabeth Northampton 15 433 Scan available - click to view
White William Northampton 15 433 Scan available - click to view

Peter, the northampton marriage does not cover the area where the couple where born or lived although i would not dismiss the marriage just yet, but Edward from Maxey Jane from Helpstone, (the next village) and acording to census's lived their lives in Helpstone, it would seem odd if they married outside their own area, Maxey and Helpstone come under Peterborough district see below

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/peterborough.html

And

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/northampton.html

To see the parishes covered under Northampton District

Roy