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AUGUSTUS BRADBURY - ELIZABETH TALBOT - SON WILLIAM

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Kimothy

Kimothy Report 21 Aug 2011 14:24

Hello all.
I hope someone can help me with some more information about Augustus Henry Bradbury b 1862 in London Paddington according to Naval records. He served RN from 1878-1882. Married Elizabeth Talbot in 1883 Westminster and they had a son William in 1888 born Paddington. William was my grandfather. I am trying to establish the whereabouts of all three from the marriage onwards and am having no success. I believe Elizabeth fled with William c1896 to the Southend area. Augustus appears in the 1911 census living alone and I think he died in 1913.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
Yours in hope
Kim (nee Bradbury) :-)

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 21 Aug 2011 14:27

Could this be Augustus in the 1871 census (living with aunt and uncle):-

SMITH, Stephen Head M 59 1812 Essex
SMITH, Charlotte Wife F 59 1812 Middlesex
SMITH, Charlotte Daughter F 21 1850 Middlesex
BRADBURY, Augustus Nephew M 10 1861 Middlesex <<<<
BRADBURY, Alice Niece F 9 1862 Middlesex
BRADBURY, Joseph Nephew M 5 1866 Middlesex

Address:
Dunford Rd, East, St Mary Islington

RG number: RG10
Piece: 302
Folio: 55
Page: 56

Kath. x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Aug 2011 14:27

Hi Kim - you can confirm deaths etc on FreeBMD:

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Sep 1913
Bradbury Augustus 52 Fulham 1a 198

Kimothy

Kimothy Report 21 Aug 2011 14:28

Further to the above, I have tried many variants of all names and also left the location field blank - William resided in Southend till his death in 1974; he married 3 times as far as I am aware and had 3 natural children by 2 of the wives ............

Kimothy

Kimothy Report 21 Aug 2011 14:31

Yes Kath, that's the one I have in my tree. Very complicated family by the looks of it as there were numerous other children from his father's second marraige who lived elsewhere it seems.

Kim

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Aug 2011 14:31

His baptism:


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Augustus Henry Bradbury
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 6 Dec 1860
Baptism Date: 6 Jan 1861
Father's name: Henry Bradbury < Dentist
Mother's name: Louise Marie Bradbury
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Address: 21 Grove Terrace

Kimothy

Kimothy Report 21 Aug 2011 14:43

Thanks MarieCeleste
Any new info is great :-)
The navy has his birthdate as 6 Dec 1862!
And I had his mother's name different too .............
Thank you so much

Kim

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Aug 2011 14:47

Hello Kim, can you tell us where and when Elizabeth was born? - might help us trace her.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Aug 2011 14:49

Kim - what did you have his mother's name as, and where did you get it? (His father may have remarried, perhaps).

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 21 Aug 2011 14:55

Is this William in the 1911 census:-

BRADBURY, William Head Married M 22 1889 Private 7th Hurrary London Paddington (should be 7th Hussars)
BRADBURY, Eva Wife Married F 22 1889 Wiltshire Lockridge

Married under one year. No children.

Address:
6a Barrack Road Hounslow

Reference:
RG14PN6826 RG78PN340 RD128 SD1 ED21 SN104

Kath. x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Aug 2011 14:55

Unfortunately, on William's baptism there's no address or occupation:


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: William Bradberry
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: 10 May 188-
Baptism Date: 20 May 1888
Father's name: Augustus Ara Bradberry (Middle name looks more like Harry)
Mother's name: Elizabeth Bradberry
Parish or Poor Law Union: Paddington St Peter
Borough: Westminster

Names definitely Bradbury on original.

Kimothy

Kimothy Report 21 Aug 2011 15:01

Hi Marie (is it okay to call you that?)
I don't know where Elizabeth was born, on their marriage details it says 1862 and names her father as Henry also.
I had Louisa (Possibly Lowe) from the 1861 census with Augustus and Henry.
I was unable to find a possible marriage until 1868 in Oxford and the a death of a Louisa Bradbury also in 1868. Henry Augustus married again in 1870 to a Charlotte Smith which all ties in with the 1871 census.
I wonder if I could trouble you Marie to find the baptisms of Augustus' siblings?
Alice c1862 and Joseph c1866. This would be quite useful info too,
Many thanks
Kim

Kimothy

Kimothy Report 21 Aug 2011 15:06

Kath, Yes that is my Grandfather William - thanks :-) My father was Hussars too!

Marie, thanks you also - Middle name I thought was Henry, however I know that Harry is a dirivitive and 'Ara' is a new one on me!

Please can you tell me where to look up Baptisms? It would save me pestering you all - your help is invaluable so thank you :-)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Aug 2011 15:10

Kim, the baptisms are on ancestry so you'd need a sub (if you don't have one). But we don't mind looking up for you (and yes, Marie's fine!)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Aug 2011 15:16

Alice's baptism:


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Charlotte Alice Olivia Bradbury
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 25 May 1862 (but might be March)
Baptism Date: 3 Dec 1862
Father's name: Henry Bradbury < Dentist
Mother's name: Louise Marie Bradbury
Parish or Poor Law Union: St John the Evangelist, Charlotte Street
Borough: Camden
Address: 4 Charlotte Street
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and Joseph's:


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Joseph Alfred Bradbery
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 29 May 1866
Baptism Date: 21 Oct 1866
Father's name: Henry Bradbery < Dentist
Mother's name: Louise Bradbery
Parish or Poor Law Union: St John the Evangelist, Charlotte Street
Borough: Camden
Address: 8 Charlotte Street

Kimothy

Kimothy Report 21 Aug 2011 15:16

Great Marie, thanks
Ancestry is gonna be my next subscription, I now seem to be hooked on this!
Recent medical scare has prompted all sorts of stuff - my folks never gave much away and still don't but I want my kids to know where they came from, it's all so interesting I don't know why I didn't do it before .............................

Kimothy

Kimothy Report 21 Aug 2011 15:22

Olivia seems to be a family name ..........................

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Aug 2011 15:24

So you're hooked - join the club!

I'm having trouble finding any of the family in any census, will have another rummage around for Elizabeth so keep checking back.

In the 1911, Augustus occupation is a house painter - does that tie in with what you know? Is that what's on William's marriage certificate(s).

Kimothy

Kimothy Report 21 Aug 2011 15:31

I don't have any certificates yet, I am awaiting a bundle from my father before I buy any (no point in having duplicates!) but yes painter does make sense as it seems to be in the genes, I believe William was a painter and decorator at some point in his life also.

Re Elizabeth; I am thinking that she may have changed her name after fleeing (my father was told that Augustus was not the nicest of men)
I am making an assumtion that she came from the area where they married so my investigate further for possible surnames she may have chosen to use ............

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Aug 2011 15:33

Henry in 1851:

PARKER, Oliver Head Widow F 58 1793 Annuitant Reading Berkshire
PARKER, Clara Daughter Unmarried F 22 1829 Milliner London Middlesex
BRADBURY, Oliver Grand Daughter Unmarried F 21 1830 Milliner Lambeth Surrey
BRADBURY, Theodore Grand Son Unmarried M 20 1831 Dentist Lambeth Surrey
BRADBURY, Henry Grand Son M 17 1834 Dentist Lambeth Surrey

Registration District: West London
Sub District: North
Enumeration District: 3C
Civil Parish: Saint Sepulchre
Municipal Borough: London

Address: 15, King Street, Saint Sepulchre, London County: Middlesex

No way would I be letting a 17 year old at my teeth!! :-0
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and in 1841:

PARKER, Robert M 40 1801 < Painter
PARKER, Olivia F 45 1796
PARKER, Clara F 13 1828
BRADBURY, Eliza F 30 1811
BRADBURY, Henery M 7 1834

Registration District: West Ham
Sub District: Leyton
Civil Parish: Lower Leyton

Address: Leyton's Lane, Lower Leyton County: Essex