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The Henry family Wigan ( that came from Ireland)

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Paul

Paul Report 10 Aug 2011 18:12

My father is Keith Henry , born in Wigan in 1946, his father ( robert Henry)was born in Wigan in around 1908, he married Mary Jane Kenny in December 1934.

His father lived in Worsley Hall, Wigan. I have come across a brick wall in trying to search the family tree for Roberts family, his dad, grandfather etc.

My dad doesn't know anything about the Henry's but apparently his grandfather was an irishman and the Henry's came from Ireland somewhere ! I have had no luck with searching trees here.

i have managed to trace the Kenny family but the Henry side is a mystery.

Any help would again be appreciated.

Thanks,

Paul



Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Aug 2011 18:15

1911 for robert
LUCAS, John Thomas Head Married M 27 1884 Coal Miner Hewer Lanc Wigan VIEW
LUCAS, Ann Jane Wife Married
2 years F 26 1885 House Keeper Lancashire Wigan VIEW
HENRY, Thomas Son Single M 7 1904 Lancashire Wigan VIEW
HENRY, Robert Son Single M 3 1908 Lancashire Wigan VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22981 Reference:
RG14PN22981 RG78PN1345 RD458 SD3 ED9 SN190

Registration District:
Wigan Sub District:
Wigan Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
Wigan

Address:
28 Stanley St Wigan County:
Lancashire

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Aug 2011 18:16

Have you got his marrieg cert to Mary Kenny? the cert should name his father, if known

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Aug 2011 18:17

marraige for john thomas
BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: LUCAS, John Thomas
Registration District: Help Wigan
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1909
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 8C
Page No: Help 119
MarriageFinderâ„¢: John Thomas Lucas married one of the following people Help


KENYON, Elizabeth Ann view record


HENRY, Ann Jane view record

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 10 Aug 2011 18:18

hi is this them

1911 census
Household information
Address 28 Stanley St Wigan
Parish Wigan
Town Wigan
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 4
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN22981 RG78PN1345 RD458 SD3 ED9 SN190
Administrative County Lancashire
Registration District Wigan
Registration Sub District Wigan
Enumeration District 9

Householder 1
Name John Thomas Lucas
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender M
Age 27
Estimated Year of Birth 1884
Occupation Coal Miner Hewer
Employed Y
Working at Home Y
Place of Birth Lanc Wigan
Nationality British

Householder 2
Name Ann Jane Lucas
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married / 2 Years
Total Children Born Alive 3
Children Still Living 2
Children Who Have Died 1
Gender F
Age 26
Estimated Year of Birth 1885
Occupation House Keeper
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Lancashire Wigan
Nationality British

Householder 3
Name Thomas Henry
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender M
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1904
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Lancashire Wigan
Nationality British

Householder 4
Name Robert Henry
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender M
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1908
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Lancashire Wigan
Nationality British

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Aug 2011 18:18

cert will name his parents
Name: Robert Henry
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1908
Registration district: Wigan
Inferred County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 60

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Aug 2011 18:20

could this be her first marraige
BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: HENRY, William
Registration District: Help Wigan
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1906
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 8C
Page No: Help 105
MarriageFinderâ„¢: William Henry married one of the following people Help


FITZPATRICK, Ann view record


HEYES, Ann Jane view record

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Aug 2011 18:23

henry possibly
BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Death
Name: HENRY, William
Registration District: Help Wigan
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1908
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 23
Volume No: 8C
Page No: 17
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patchem

patchem Report 10 Aug 2011 18:23

Thomas Henry was born in 1903/1904, so from another marriage, or not Thomas Henry?

Paul

Paul Report 10 Aug 2011 18:25

Hi thanks, i'm not sure.

My Grandad ( Bob) Robert Henry was born, as far as I know in Logwood Avenue, Wigan. But maybe he wasn't born there.

I think some of the family lived in Scholes, Wigan, perhaps a street called Hardybutts. As far as I am aware they came from ireland but maybe before a few years in wigan.

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Aug 2011 18:26

1901 for ann heyes
HEYES, Ralph Head Married M 45 1856 Coal Hewer
Aspull
Lancashire VIEW
HEYES, Ellen Wife Married F 49 1852
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
HEYES, Alice Daughter Single F 22 1879 Cotton Ring Spinner
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
HEYES, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 22 1879 R? Brow Labourer
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
HEYES, Mary E Daughter Single F 20 1881 Cotton Winder
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
HEYES, Ann Jane Daughter Single F 16 1885 Cotton Reeler
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3553 Folio:
90 Page:
32

Registration District:
Wigan Sub District:
Wigan Enumeration District:
11 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Wigan St Catherine's

Civil Parish:
Wigan Municipal Borough:
Address:
2, Kendrick Street, Wigan County:
Lancashire

Paul

Paul Report 10 Aug 2011 18:28

Hi Maddy, you may be onto something there, i'm sure my dad mentioned that there was a Heyes in the family.

Thanks

Paul

Unfortunately we don't have any birth certificates.

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Aug 2011 18:30

1901 ?????
jane came from ireland his mother

HENRY, Thomas Head Married M 48 1853 Coal Miner Hewer
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
HENRY, Jane Wife Married F 47 1854
Ireland VIEW
HENRY, Sarah Daughter Single F 21 1880 Cotton Spinner
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
HENRY, William Son Single M 16 1885 Coal Miner Drawer
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
HENRY, Thomas Son M 14 1887 Sweeper In Cotton Mill
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
HENRY, Margaret Daughter F 9 1892
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
HENRY, James Son M 5 1896
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3553 Folio:
111 Page:
19

Registration District:
Wigan Sub District:
Wigan Enumeration District:
12 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Wigan St Catherine's

Civil Parish:
Wigan Municipal Borough:
Address:
68, Schofield Lane, Wigan County:
Lancashire

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 10 Aug 2011 18:42

1881....Thomas' father was from Co Down
Jane from Co Armagh....


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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas HENRY Head M Male 29 Wigan, Lancashire, England Coal Miner
Jane HENRY Wife M Female 27 Armagh, Ireland
John HENRY Son U Male 7 Wigan, Lancashire, England Scholar
Sarah HENRY Dau U Female 2 Wigan, Lancashire, England
James HENRY Father W Male 60 Down, Ireland Factory Operative
Wm. ALKER Cousin U Male 21 Wigan, Lancashire, England Coal Miner
Wm. ALKER Uncle W Male 50 Wigan, Lancashire, England Laborer
George BARLOW Lodger U Male 23 Hindley, Lancashire, England Coal Miner


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Source Information:
Dwelling 7 Belvoir Street
Census Place Wigan, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341900
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3763 / 146
Page Number 27

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Aug 2011 18:55

Eringobragh1916

is that the jackpot
maddie

Paul

Paul Report 10 Aug 2011 18:59

This looks very promising, are the last two bits of information from the same family but with a 20 year interval or are they separate families ?

And the one above the last 2 looks promising too,

Which ones are directly connected to my grandfather, Robert Henry ?

Paul

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 10 Aug 2011 19:06

John Henry (1881) Census married Eliz. Alice Hunt. St Catherines Wigan 1895.

Sarah Henry married Thomas Heyes. St Thomas' 1905....

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Aug 2011 19:09

robert henry 1908 mother was ann jane heyes who married william henry and then lucas or so it seems

Paul

Paul Report 10 Aug 2011 19:13

Eringobragh1916 ( Hope I spelled it right !)

You sound like you may have a match. I am sure my day mentioned a Heyes in the family and the irish connection is there too. So John could have been Robert's dad and Thomas his grandad ? James his great grandad ?

Paul

Paul Report 10 Aug 2011 19:15

Yes Maddy I am guessing that my grandad ( Robert)was born around that time. My dad was born in 1945 and his olest sister was born in 1940.

This is interesting.